I didn't have to test ERik, but that's because he was under a certain age. I *think* they have an online test specific to EPGY--checking level, not a true achievement test. Would he do that kind of thing?
Students age 9-12. The EPGY Mathematical Aptitude Test; if available, a score report or psychologist's evaluation from any of the following tests: CAT-5, CTBS/4, CTP-III, ERB, ITBS, MAT-7, OLSAT, PLUS, SAT-8, SAT-9, WISC, SCAT, or Woodcock-Johnson.
So it sounds like you could just do the EPGY test. Heather can tell you more what that was like.
I had Nathan do the online EPGY test. it was painless.
Not at all like hours worth of testing. Not at all.
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can you guys tell me more about this for younger kids? Would you do it still if your child was also enrolled in public school? Liam is very gifted in certain mathematical areas, and only average in others-- is this going to be something that caters to those strengths?
Tell me more! I can give more specific information on his strengths and weaknesses if needed as well.
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can you guys tell me more about this for younger kids? Would you do it still if your child was also enrolled in public school? Liam is very gifted in certain mathematical areas, and only average in others-- is this going to be something that caters to those strengths?
Tell me more! I can give more specific information on his strengths and weaknesses if needed as well.
My mom (gifted services coordinator) tries to get school districts to pay for this through their gifted programs. So, a lot of public school kid do use it, too, and sometimes the school district will even pay.
And Stacey, I believe they will take results from that last 2 years of any testing. So if he has been tested in the last 2 years, they might be admissible.
My mom (gifted services coordinator) tries to get school districts to pay for this through their gifted programs. So, a lot of public school kid do use it, too, and sometimes the school district will even pay.
I would bet that the vast majority of kids using it are public schooled kids who need more challenges in math. Erik isn't in public, but he is in private school, and we're going for it.
Heather (ha! if that isn't vague on this thread!) I mean, Liam's mommy, this is what they cover in the K-2 module EPGY M0WA Accelerated K-2 Mathematics I know some of it will be basic for Erik, but I think it will be good to start out easy, anyway.
If he's gifted in the concepts, but not really advanced in the actual computation, I bet he'd really benefit. Erik is that way--he CAN do the actual work of it, but he really doesn't want to do it, and he's not some data head who just adds up stuff all day long. But his concepts are very advanced.
If he's gifted in the concepts, but not really advanced in the actual computation, I bet he'd really benefit. Erik is that way--he CAN do the actual work of it, but he really doesn't want to do it, and he's not some data head who just adds up stuff all day long. But his concepts are very advanced.
It's a lot different than I had imagined it would be. I am VERY happy with it, and Nate enjoys it... and I can see that he is learning in such a more appropriate way for him.
That's how Nate is, too. Conceptual. And this program really brings out the conceptual parts.
thanks ya'll. I think I may look into it. Tell me more about how it is taught and the financial aid. Does he have to login daily, or could we do say a Saturday marathon? I saw you guys mention financial aid, can you tell me more about it? Things are VERY tight right now, and I am not sure if we would be able to afford much at all. Also is this available through the summer? I am sure that we will be looking for something to keep him busy. He started doing starfall at 3 so is terribly bored with it by this point LOL. He LOVES school and learning, so we are always looking for things to keep him stimulated. I also am interested in some of the language stuff. Liam has a speech and language delay in that he has issues with pragmatics. He is able to express his knowledge on a subject with no issue at all, and academically he is doing really really well. His issues are primarily conversational and pragmatic in nature. Hard to explain -- if you sat with him for 5 minutes you would understand completely. ANYWAY lol boy that was a tangent.
All of the topics listed there are things that have been introduced in kindy to him already. It just seems like when we "introduce" things to him, that he has already been doing them forever if that makes sense-- like conceptually they aren't at all challenging. The other day in the van we were talking about school and how they were learning to count by 2's and 5's (mostly 5's actually), and so I told him you can count by 3's and 4's too, and demonstrated with a few, and he was able to count to 100 by 3's and 4's before we got home. He also has figured out how to tell you what day of the week any date for the last 20 or the next 20 years falls on. Further out than that and he is less accurate, but within that span he is almost totally accurate. We have noticed lots of other things as well, that he just understands without explanation.
ok, the way topics are presented and taught. They present a short (sometimes just a couple of sentences) lesson introducing the topic/concept. Then they give the student problems. If the student shows that they know the concept (by answering them all right) they move on - say after 5 problems. Or if they miss one of the 5, they will give the student one more... and if he gets that one right they move on, if not, they may give more practice. Or, they may move on and come back to that concept again later.
They take everything in steps, too. Right now Nathan is learning long division. He has known how to do long division for a couple of years, but the way this is being taught is so step-by-step... they really break it all down into steps, doing practies of each step. That said... it isn't boring for him because it's presented in a different way. And they segments are so short, that in a 20 minute session he may do 6 different 'parts'.
If the child answers the problem correctly, the gentleman teacher says, "Good Job." or "Nice Work." If they miss it, they get another chance... and he says, "Try again" or "That's not it." There is another voice that they can hear if they need help while answering. They have 2 chances to get the right answer, then it moves on.
When you sign in, the 'time' is automatically set to 20 minute segments. You can email your teacher and have him/her change it to a longer segment if you want. We changed Nate's to 40 minutes because 20 was JUST enough time to get in the groove and get moving. it automatically stops the work at the 20 minute mark (well... not in the middle of a problem). So, we have Nate work until it stops... an he's completed enough that day then.
They have a calendar and on each day the student signs in and completes work they have a log. You (or the teacher at Stanford) can go in and watch what the student did. If they are having a particularly hard time getting something, this is helpful for the teacher. You can click on any particular day to see a graph showing how many problems the student did - it's broken down to how many they got right, got right 2nd time, missed and skipped. You can also click on another place and see what concepts have been covered, and how many they have gotten correct in that particular concept.
You also get an email from the student's teacher each week. That person looks over what the student has accomplished, what they might be having difficulty with. They go through the missed problems. You can also call and talk to the teacher, too, if you are having difficulty. Nathan has emailed his teacher a couple of times just to write a note to him. His teacher wrote back, so that was nice.
Financial Aid. We filled out their form, sent in our tax information... and we were awarded a 65% financial aid. So, it ends up being $58/month (after the first quarter, you can pay by month, too). I was surprised, because we aren't making too bad of money right now. That financial aid is good for a year, and then we need to submit our tax forms again to get another year's worth of financial aid.
The math courses are year round. They are self paced, so you can work as much or as little as you want. I have Nathan work on it at least 30 minutes at least 3 days a week. For December and January we were not following that... because I was just having a hard time with dh being gone. But now, we are back into the swing of things, and he is flying again. He started the 4th grade part in November and he is already at 4.63 - and like i said, he wasn't doing much in Dec. or Jan. He was tarted on the 3rd grade (it's combined 3/4) and it was encouraging for him to see that he could easily do this... and with concepts he already understood, it was easier for him to learn how to use the system. So when he got to something that was a little more challenging (like a problem with multiple steps where he has to fill in 10 blanks on one screen) he had to confidence in himself to do it and not completely melt down because he was clueless.
I was looking at the English. BUT... they have to have tested at an appropriate 'gifted' level in English to be able to enroll in those programs. Nathan's 'giftedness' is all math. I want something similar in nature to help him with the English, though. :/
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