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As far as the VP thing goes it was Jessica_momof6 who made the false claim,
<the freaking VP backed her up in our repeated requests for information! he said it was true. he said he had seen the funeral papers. it was a crock of bull sh*t!! he lied to everyone.>.
so I got his title wrong. he was a higher up in the company that still made those claims.
Originally posted by *snowflake* Thanks MoonDancer. After nearly 5 years here I thought mamas knew me well enough to know I have no reason to sit around making up lies, and I really don't like it being implied. Sorry you had a bad experience, too.
Ugh, was meant to be a pm - good thing I didn't type the rest of what I was thinking... But I'm gonna leave it here anyway... no use editing now.
don't let her get to you.
look at the source.
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originally posted by twiddlebritches
Um, You can not send a plain Letter with Delivery confirmation. In order to get Delivery confirmation it must go priority. So either you sent it priority and forgot because you didnt mention it here, or you didnt send it with Delivery confirmation or you are just getting on the band wagon.
Originally posted by MamaJosie we could get a separate MLM Market board so all the cult freak network marketers could just SPAM one another all day long and talk about how great there products are and the rest of us could be left alone? Anyone wanna vote on it?
LOL!!! Yes, please, can we have some rule about no MLM spam? Please!
Mela is scary to me. I'm sure that they have perfectly decent products, like millions of other companies. However, they have a unique way of brainwashing their reps that I haven't seen w/other companies (Avon, MK, etc.). Pretty disturbing. And I still don't understand why they think these products are so safe and natural.......and they seem to think they are the only company making "safe" products. Haven't they heard of Seventh Generation, Ecos, BioKleen, Mrs. Meyers, etc? Mela is pricey and not all natural, yet they market their products as the only safe and affordable products out there. Whatever. One would have to be a total idiot to buy into all that. Buyer beware.
Kristi
__________________ Back of every creation, supporting it like an arch, is faith. Enthusiasm is nothing: it comes and goes. But if one believes, then miracles occur. ~Henry Miller
Location: an Uptown Mpls WAHM who is really a geek from South Dakota.
Posts: 10,229
First of all naturalmamabarter does not allow MLM's. Wonder why.
MLM's are not WAHM, it is like the WAHM's are prostitutes for crappy products made by white CEO's. I am so sick by this, I will not shut up. I hate it!
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Originally posted by Elly Melaleuca has been picked apart here and everywhere for good reason, everyone has their family in their best interest.
This is just MY opinion...
Gosh Elly, put your family first. And remember this is not a cult!!
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We are people from all walks of life whose mission is to help families, like yours and ours, create better, safer, and healthier lives.
We accomplish this by helping others achieve good health and complete wellness; personal wellness, family wellness, and financial wellness.
We're dedicated to helping families attain peace of mind by getting out of debt and achieving financial security, while creating time freedom for the real things that matter, like spending time with those we care about.
As members of this team of energetic families and individuals, we share values and beliefs, working together to take control of our lives. Together, we can achieve so much more!
like to know if anyone would want a separate WAHM market board from those selling products from a corporate MLM. Maybe I will do a poll. Never done one yet. I am not trying to say I am totally against all these MLM products or companies. I think some are better than others though with their tactics. I have bought an occasional pampered chef item (baking stones come to mind) and there are other companies I like the products from like Creative Memories, Close to My Heart etc. but I learned the hard way that many of these companies use extremely invasive tactics to "convert" people and I am so done with it. I feel that it is a truly sinister way for corporate greed to invade our most private family relationships and friendships. I dunno, I guess it ain't my site but supporting wahms or buying and trading used/secondhand goods seems much more in line with the goals of this site.
I realize MLMs may help some women stay home and that is a good thing but ask yourself if you are alienating all your family and friends to support "the company" is it worth it? I was downright stalked and bullied by a school board member in my town (at school functions no less) selling Quixtar (Amway reinventing itself online) and I finally had to get ugly with her. All I am saying is maybe we could discuss some way to amicably exist better on this board or consider multiple forums or stricter rules on spam. Yes I know it is a market board but if you are going to spam 20 times a day or go in for the kill with your working at home and loving it super-secret "opportunity" to every piece of fresh meat that stumbles onto Amitys, why don't you consider springing for a banner ad or sig link (don't those cost now). I am rambling but to the lady asking about Mela-whatchamacallit, this company makes me want to HURL! Oh and it cracks me up about the misnamed VP - I mean that guy who got the supposed "funeral program" is probably a 15th generation in someone's downline. The VP's aint working with customers - they are laughing all the way to the bank while the downline terrorizes their family and friends!!!
Last edited by MamaJosie : 12-09-2004 at 06:00 PM.
Location: an Uptown Mpls WAHM who is really a geek from South Dakota.
Posts: 10,229
this is from naturalmamabarter
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You know I had not considered that people might post MLM type
businesses on Friday sales given the list's policy on these business in
general, so I apologize for not being clearer and not better
anticipating the potential conflict. So, to tell you the truth I was
just observing and sort of considering it and then I realized-
oh my gosh...there are so MANY, MANY UBB consultants here on this list
who might possibly post the same ad- not to mention other distributors
from other MLMs.....imagine the potential for a moment. How about 50-60
people who are distributors for the same company sending in a clearance
ad (exactly the same items and prices) post up on a Friday. We have
300 members currently and we are less than a year old. We have lot's of
members who are distributors for the same companies.
It was actually a UBB consultant here who brought this issue up when
the list first began and convinced me that it was not a great idea. I
really agree. I happen to really like this particular business- and I
realize that many moms boost their income this way. This list is just
really for moms who own their own naturally focused businesses to trade
and to sell and for everyone and anyone to barter their (mostly)
natural goods and services- not professional necessarily.
I think this is the best way to go. I know there are many lists for
WAHM to promote their businesses including MLMs. I big reason I started
this list was to get away from that and have something much more
focused on the kinds of things I really wanted to find and trade/buy
most.
Another thing- to be honest- I really do have a BIG personal problem
with most MLMs- UBB is really the exception - I am sure many of you
have one or two you like too. Many however are highly deceptive and in
the past on this list (and other lists) I find the arguing about these
companies and their products to be very repetitive and uninteresting-
and at this point not something that I want to do at all. Please don't
write to tell me about a MLM that is better/ different/ etc....I am
just not wanting to explore this topic or hear about the companies.
Sig line links are FINE!!! At least then people can find the companies
they are interested in. I really don't like to be so picky, but I feel
it is in the best interest of the group as a whole. What do others
think?
Elizabeth
List Owner
Following the thread/ reminders that we don't allow advertising of your
MLM/ Direct Sales advertising (except a sig line/ link of 3-4 lines
including your name is FINE) I have had a few questions off list
regarding where people *can* go to advertise their WAHM businesses
including their MLM affiliated business.
Keep in mind I am not an expert on this topic. Once I joined a WAHM ad
list and unsubbed after a few days overwhelmed by the amount of
repetitive advertising and the sheer quantity of mail- 99% on stuff
that I don't care for. However, here are some yahoo groups I have found
by searching that you might find helpful. I do not belong to any, nor
am I endorsing any of the following. I hope these links will be
supportive to many of you here who are looking for a group to share
your business opportunity, products, and services with. If you don't
find the niche you are really looking for specifically- you can always
create your own. That's what I did and how Natural Mama Barter came to
be.
I believe Denise/Twiddlebritches attack on Snowflakes honesty and character is in violation of the UA here. I hope someone does something about that. I also think there needs to be some rule about not spamming MLM maybe just a link in a sig line because this is just offensive.
For what it's worth - I've reported her post. These are the reporting guidlines
is is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts
I think continuing to harrass anyone who doesn't like melaeuca on on here and even accuse them of lying qualifies as harrassment/problemating/fighting/rude. Esp when that seems to be the content of most recent posts.
And yes - I know - I don't have to open the posts
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~ Cheryl ~ single mama to
Melissa (10), Michael (9), Madeleine (8)
twins Megan & Maribeth (5)
Last edited by Mama2miracles : 12-09-2004 at 06:42 PM.
Originally posted by Mama2miracles believe Denise/Twiddlebritches attack on Snowflakes honesty and character is in violation of the UA here. I hope someone does something about that. I also think there needs to be some rule about not spamming MLM maybe just a link in a sig line because this is just offensive.
Oh but your looking for a cure to CF? Um, animal testing has been done in search for this cure. So where do you stand? For or against animal testing, when its convenient for you personally? I mean if they found a cure tomorrow because of a test they did on a rat would you boycot it because it was tested on animals? I bet not!
Wow. What an incredibly bitc*y thing to say!!!! So yes, hon, she IS hoping for a cure....what the heck is your point??? You CAN be against animal testing and FOR a CF cure through other testing means....ever consider that?!? Or perhaps she is ok with medically *needed* animal testing but not otherwise...who knows. Who are you to judge and assume anything without knowing her stance fully???
And pullleeeze! A cure for CF found on a rat is totally different over using cheaper animal testing to test cleaning crap when there are other just as safe means and methods.
Most medical testing today CAN be done, and often is, on skin cells and human harvested samples and such. Not live animals. Perhaps you could inform Mela about that?
Originally posted by kaje62 Gosh Elly, put your family first. And remember this is not a cult!!
Ok, I finally saw the picture pop up after that statement...yes, that looks like my family...except, I have auburn hair, my husband is mexican, and we have 4 rugrats. Often we run and play soccer with eachother, have picnics and ...nevermind, I'll stop there before I put my foot in my mouth.
Melaleuca is not a cult
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Don't take your organs to heaven...heaven knows we need them here!
Originally posted by ~Denise~ Wow. What an incredibly bitc*y thing to say!!!! So yes, hon, she IS hoping for a cure....what the heck is your point??? You CAN be against animal testing and FOR a CF cure through other testing means....ever consider that?!? Or perhaps she is ok with medically *needed* animal testing but not otherwise...who knows. Who are you to judge and assume anything without knowing her stance fully???
And pullleeeze! A cure for CF found on a rat is totally different over using cheaper animal testing to test cleaning crap when there are other just as safe means and methods.
Most medical testing today CAN be done, and often is, on skin cells and human harvested samples and such. Not live animals. Perhaps you could inform Mela about that?
I just made the connection why she mentioned the CF. That is a low blow man and totally absurd. Are people getting this. She is ripping into a mama of a child with a health problem. So curing her child's condition ranks with say testing toiletry products which have been used for decades in similar formulas. Wow. I was feeling a bit guilty before about my cult comment but not anymore. WOW
After nearly 5 years here I thought mamas knew me well enough to know I have no reason to sit around making up lies, and I really don't like it being implied. 
Sorry you had a bad experience, too.
But I'm gonna leave it here anyway... no use editing now. 
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