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Old 12-09-2004, 08:12 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Re: Holy Moley

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I just made the connection why she mentioned the CF. That is a low blow man and totally absurd. Are people getting this. She is ripping into a mama of a child with a health problem. So curing her child's condition ranks with say testing toiletry products which have been used for decades in similar formulas. Wow. I was feeling a bit guilty before about my cult comment but not anymore. WOW
yes-I got it, and I have been fuming over it all day since I saw it.

All I can say is

twiddlebritches, you are a *****
and I hope you can sleep well at night for what you have said here in this thread.

how low can one person be?

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Old 12-09-2004, 08:20 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Oh but your looking for a cure to CF? Um, animal testing has been done in search for this cure. So where do you stand? For or against animal testing, when its convenient for you personally? I mean if they found a cure tomorrow because of a test they did on a rat would you boycot it because it was tested on animals? I bet not!


I have seen some foul things on this board, but this is about the worst. I am going to assume the woman who you are quoting has a child with CF? And that child may or may not live into adulthood? and she lives with that each and every day and you just rubbed it in that Momma's face? Maybe you didn't think about it that way? I am hoping you just got caught up in the moment and that you are trying to defend what you love against everyone here, but that is just awful! It seriously brings tears to my eyes for that Momma you said it too. How sad, so sad!
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:26 PM   #78 (permalink)
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At least you only accused me of lying.

If I had a child with CF right now I'd be livid and so hurt... that was not a very kind comment.

Ya know, I actually did like some of Mela's products but when I and others are attacked in thread after thread like this you'd better believe I won't support them - and I'll continue to answer when asked for my opinion of the company AND their reps.

You really crossed a line and that is one of the most insensitive things I've ever seen on this board...
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:28 PM   #79 (permalink)
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I have seen some foul things on this board, but this is about the worst.
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:29 PM   #80 (permalink)
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I stayed away from this one this time but...

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<Animal Testing: true but again I got in quite a tiff with some reps over this and all anyone has to do is contact PETA for the Copies of Original letters from the president/party involved that basically blew this into public light/knowledge>
1. the detergent by the "other" company was their competition. They had someone "neutral" test it on animals--

2. The Heart vitamins... were and currently are tested on dogs and who knows what other type of animal. The president claims it is for "Human Kind" but I seriously doubt that because the FDA does not even REQUIRE testing of these products.

3. PETA did have them on their list for a while, they were taken off and then added on again after signing a statement that basically said they would not test on animals. Then later that year the "dogs had to be put to sleep" with testing on the heart vitamins...supplements... BTW...there is a rumor among the "Mela" reps that the "the animal testing is just dog shampoo" this is just one test... the death of the dogs is a completely different occurance.

4. PETA finally got tired of Mela's back and forth policy and that is when the Pres. made the official statement about their policy on animal testing. something to the effect of (I am not quoting here okay) ----we do not support animal testing or cruelty to animals in any way, all of our "_____" products (these are the natural mela products don't know the exact names) are not tested on animals. But I can not say I will never test on animals if we can bring something to the public that will be beneficial to "mankind"----aka their new heart supplement. BTW...This heart supplement is not required by law to be tested on animals, Mela chooses to test on animals for the "research stats" to back up their "claims".

I am sorry you feel so attacked. Actually I am sorry so many mela reps feel so attacked. I am not quite sure why they do?

BTW: Moms Team here in California had a lawsuit brought against them... not sure of the outcome but I recall it not being positive.. it destroyed a lot of families and many of whom did not even know they were in a "Pyramid".

I do think Mela gets away with a lot because of it's different "Rep groups" because after all it is they who make the claims and if they catch them or any legal stuff is associated with mela it just gets shoved on to the little guy the "rep Team" like Moms Team You do notice that there are fewer ads with that particular group online now don't you???

Anyway, Twiddlebritches, I give you a great big HUGGGGG because I know you need it and I do believe doubleblessed is also rep with Mela if I am not mistaken I hope everyone is BLESSED by their families and I am sure you were "in the heat of the moment" when you made that hurtful comment and you were trying to make a point about hypocrisy which is a good point but sometimes as I am doing now we talk without thinking and start defending ourselves against accusations that are real or unreal.

Goodnight everyone...Lots of Love and may this thread DIE.

P.S. on another board... We do have a thread called MLM's/NetworkMarketing -- under is a Mela thread all its own just so people can go get the information positive and negative and make their own decision. That might be a good idea because this does come up every now and then on this board. It would be nice to say go to llllllll and click on xxxxxx to find out more.

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Old 12-09-2004, 09:35 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Whoo boy,

really representin' the old Mela cause there!


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Oh but your looking for a cure to CF? Um, animal testing has been done in search for this cure. So where do you stand? For or against animal testing, when its convenient for you personally? I mean if they found a cure tomorrow because of a test they did on a rat would you boycot it because it was tested on animals? I bet not!


Way to drum up business!

Let's see, attack woman with child suffering from life threatening disease with petty nonsense -- CHECK!

Equate product testing with medical research in a lame attempt to obscure fact -- CHECK!

How about a REALITY CHECK?!

Is shampoo and dish liquid really worth such a rude-a** stink?

With this kind of rabid intensity shown anytime anyone says a word against the blessed Mela Corp. (ALL HAIL THE HOLY MELA-OIL) do you really wonder why they and their reps get such a bad rep?
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:54 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I have seen some foul things on this board, but this is about the worst.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:29 AM   #83 (permalink)
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You know, I was just talking to dh about this. He said he has been very surprised since starting for Wells Fargo about how many phone calls he gets from people needing help on their account because of Melaleuca making UN-authorized charges to their checking accounts

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Old 12-10-2004, 01:37 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Now wait, Jessica, that isn't possible... it's only ME that had that problem. Or wait, no I didn't... that's right, I must be making it up.

(I know this post isn't productive, sorry... not helping, am I?)

Any chance the mods want to trash this thread yet? I think we've all violated the UA multiple times here.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:42 PM   #85 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by TwiddleBritches
QUOTE] The ladies from Amitys really invaded the poor family's life


Forgive me, I didn't take the time to read the gazillion pages on this. All I needed was to read THIS POST and my blood started boiling. Denise - how the heck can YOU EVEN TALK ABOUT PEOPLE INVADING PEOPLE'S LIVES WITH EMOTIONAL BLASTS WHEN YOU DID THE CRAP YOU DID TO ME??? You probably don't even remember, but I promise you I will never forget when I signed up to join Melaleuca, and then subsequently changed my mind because I found out my brother was dieing of cancer and I did not have the emotional stability to deal with it. Remember I KINDLY asked you to leave me be, and then your dh called me trying to convince me that melaleuca products could save my brother. Talk about the ultimate guilt trip. Just so you know Denise - I was at my all time lowest of my life. I remember the evening clearly - as a matter of fact I was sitting in a ball on my floor trying to not cry aloud and disturb my kids with my crying and your dh called - acted like he cared - (which is odd btw - why would I want comfort from someone else's dh? I have my own dh who comforts me quite well thank you) - and then PUSHED the fact that mela has products that could save him. DO YOU NOT THINK THAT WAS NOT INVADING MY FAMILY LIFE WHEN I WAS AT MY WEAKEST? Is that common practice, or is that just your bull**** Denise? I finally had to warn you with seeking legal action in order to get you to leave me alone. At the time, I took it up with mods here (although none of this took place here so their hands were tied) JUST to make sure if you pulled this crap again someone KNEW it had happened.

Just for the record - not that you care or anything - he did die. It was awful, terrible. I can't imagine the kind of selling you and your dh would have tried to do to get me to buy more and more crap when you knew I had financial issues in the first place. It's because of YOU that my stomach crawls everytime I see the name Melaleuca.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:56 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I'm so sorry about your brother Delpha.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:03 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Mela threads always make me cry. Because of what Denise and her husband did to me, I even hear about mela and it takes me back to a very very bad time in my life. It always brings it all back. I really think I'm going to puke. Thank you for your concern.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:42 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Oh my goodness.Im so,so sorry Mama.
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:02 PM   #89 (permalink)
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I am so sorry Delpha. This is horrible, horrible. I hope you are doing well over the holidays.

Wendi, I really hope you don't take the comments to heart. They were truley heartless and uncalled for. This was pure ignorance talking. She must have some major problems in her life that would allow herself to step down to this level.

Do they have a melaluca meeting that teaches this cruelty. Even if they didn't test on animals, the "testing" they do on humans is bad enough!
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:46 PM   #90 (permalink)
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<If they do ANY type of animal testing - then I won't buy from them! By saying they don't "promote" animal testing or cruelty is just a cop out.>

Oh but your looking for a cure to CF? Um, animal testing has been done in search for this cure. So where do you stand? For or against animal testing, when its convenient for you personally? I mean if they found a cure tomorrow because of a test they did on a rat would you boycot it because it was tested on animals? I bet not!

Hypocrisy!

If Melaleuca or any other company for that matter thinks they have a cure for cancer do you think they will test it on rats. Of course, and so would you because LEGALLY certain tests can not be preformed on humans. I mean how many of you have had an ultrasound? Hmmm, animal testing there, and lots of it and not just on rats but on Monkeys. I mean serious Hypocrisy here. Oh yeah but thats different right?
that was so f*cking low! low low low low lowest of the f*cking low.

but hell, all is good if you use mela right?

(to those that my swear words offended i am sorry but believe me, there are worse things i wanted to say but i am holding back)
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