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Old 08-23-2004, 11:09 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: This is so sad.... I have to share... Please use safer products!

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This is real, people! I held this child in my arms when he was born, I was at his baptism and his birthdays….now he is gone. And there is no excuse! These products from store shelves are dangerous! His mother now has to deal with the guilt for the rest of her life. As I had mentioned, I did share this with her. She knew there were safer alternatives. She knew. Her excuse…it’s that “Amway thing”, my cousin is “in that”, I know all about it and I’m just not interested. She knew. She thought, never in a million years will that happen to me, I’m careful. The guilt and pain have to be unbearable. She has to pick out a casket for her son. A tiny, child size casket. She will bury her son on Monday. She will never see her son start Kindergarten, graduate high school and college, she will never see him get married or have grandchildren for her to dote over. She is going to have to deal with stress in her marriage. And his younger sister will never see him again. (She is four, almost five months old)


This could have been prevented. If she had only listened, and not had the “it’ll never happen to me” mentality. It did happen. And it could happen to anyone at anytime. It is up to us as adults to provide the safest environment we can for ourselves and our children and even our pets. Several thousand children are poisoned every year!! What are the odds it could be your child, or someone you know? How long can you outrun the odds? Don’t take a chance – these are children’s lives we are talking about.

Gee, I hope his mother never sees these words. This is terrible spam IMO.
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:23 AM   #32 (permalink)
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That's sad that someone would use that horrible tradgedy to sell they're stuff. Yuck.



Also...Baking soda and Vinegar works really well for cleaning just about anything. Including carpet. I just used it the other day actually. Just sprinkle baking soda on the stain then pour (or spray) some vinegar on it. Let it fiz up and set for a moment then soak up the baking soda/vinegar/stain witha towel. You can get a huge jug of vinegar for under $3 and a decent sized box of baking soda for even less. And no marketing schemes!
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:29 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:31 AM   #34 (permalink)
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This could have been prevented. If she had only listened, and not had the “it’ll never happen to me” mentality. It did happen. And it could happen to anyone at anytime. It is up to us as adults to provide the safest environment we can for ourselves and our children and even our pets. Several thousand children are poisoned every year!! What are the odds it could be your child, or someone you know? How long can you outrun the odds? Don’t take a chance – these are children’s lives we are talking about.




OMG!!!! If anyone wrote that about my child & I before they were even buried I would be major P*SSED! I will not be returning to this thread. I used to be curious about the products but now I've decided to never do any kinda business with them.
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Jess I truly believe you meant well and you were thinking you are so glad you use natural products but the because of the timing of your post it is so gut wrenching emotional that it feels phony, fake and invasive.

Maybe if you wrote a few weeks from now a short sentence about how you heard yet one more child got sick or died from over the counter products, as another SAHM got cancer from cleaning products as they have done studies linking SAHM to more cancer, this is an old stufy and EASY OFF oven products etc..may be the culprit. Anyway timing wise this post comes off very yucky. Maybe you don't see it cuz you are wrapped in the emotion since your friend knows this boy. Anyway I do think the thread should be deleted because it is not only invasive to the mother, it is invasive to us opening this thread. Thanks KJP
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Karen I have people with questions about this testimony. Do you have an article or town where and when this happened to share with my doubters?

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I don’t know if anything has been published yet, as this just happened. I don’t know if she and her husband have chosen to have his obituary published or not. She can’t even look anyone in the eye she is so guilt ridden and the pain is so fresh right now. This family is so torn a part right now it isn’t funny. I know they really just want privacy right now, but she has given me permission to tell the story. I am attending the funeral later this morning and I will have the program, etc. If anyone has any questions, you can direct them to me for now. My phone number is (XXX) XXX-XXXX and my e-mail is kujcich@iglide.net


Thanks. Let me know if I can help in any way. And, please, when you forward Dylan’s story, please keep my contact info with the e-mail so that this does not become an “urban legend”.


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My heart is breaking for this family. My thoughts go out to them today as they do probally the hardest thing any mother ever has to do. Off to hug my little man right now and be thankful that he is healthy and safe. From the sound of it it was not just one squirt, but several that he swallowed, and since he is so little, It most likely went down fast and ate away at everything in it's path on the way down and through his system. I will post any more info I receive about articles, obituaries, ect. Until then please keep this family in your thoughts/prayers, I'm sure they could use them right now.

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Old 08-23-2004, 11:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:37 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Whether the story is true or not, this is extremely distasteful, to say the least.

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Edited to add that I don't think anyone wants their phone number posted on a public internet board...but I could be mistaken.
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:49 AM   #38 (permalink)
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This could have been prevented. If she had only listened, and not had the “it’ll never happen to me” mentality. It did happen. And it could happen to anyone at anytime. It is up to us as adults to provide the safest environment we can for ourselves and our children and even our pets. Several thousand children are poisoned every year!! What are the odds it could be your child, or someone you know? How long can you outrun the odds? Don’t take a chance – these are children’s lives we are talking about.
After reading Brianna's post, we crossposted. I changed my thoughts. Jess it does not seem you and Karen really care about the mother when these words are written or posted. I think it is crazy and Karen is going to the funeral. I am so offended by this and I am not the mom.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:12 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I'm not one to get offended by things posted on an Internet message board (well, at least not too easily, lol), but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I can't see this being true. If something happened to any of my good friends' children, the LAST thing I'd be doing is telling my "business network" about it to help them sell more products and BLAMING my grieving friend for not buying said products. Especially before the funeral even happened. Either this woman is lying, or she's no friend to the mother in question. And I doubt she included her number and Melaleuca e-mail in hopes of squelching an urban legend. Anyone who actually calls that number is in for a high-pressure "your kid will die if you don't use our products" sales pitch, no doubt.

I really hope I'm wrong.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:14 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Jess it does not seem you and Karen really care about the mother when these words are written or posted. I think it is crazy and Karen is going to the funeral. I am so offended by this and I am not the mom.


Jess, I cannot believe you would even post this. Like everyone else has said, it disgusts me that you would use this woman's tragedy to promote your business. I truly hope that this lady never ever sees this e-mail that you and Karen are spreading about. I would be so hurt and offended if I were in her shoes. Shame on you for even posting this message to try to promote your own personal business.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:20 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I don’t know if anything has been published yet, as this just happened. I don’t know if she and her husband have chosen to have his obituary published or not. She can’t even look anyone in the eye she is so guilt ridden and the pain is so fresh right now. This family is so torn a part right now it isn’t funny. I know they really just want privacy right now, but she has given me permission to tell the story.
i'm not buying this story.

the friend would either be willing to let the story be known or not. to say she will only let the story be known to further the casue of your company and its effort to save the world...nope.

this is t-a-c-k-y.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:21 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Karen asked for her info to be posted with the story so I am just doing as she wishes. It is her business info and is posted on her business website so I don't think she would care. If the powers that be decide to delete it they can do so.

If I delete the post it wouldn't do any good anyhow as you all hav copied and pasted a lot of it into the replies so there is no point. If it offends you stop comming back.

If this post makes ONE person think twice before setting down a cleaner on the floor, if it makes ONE person not grab the chemicals in the store, if it saves even ONE life I think it was worth it, but I hate how many of you I've made upset. I am a very peaceful mama, I don't like upset. This post made my heart ache and I didn't want it to happen to anyone else, that is why I posted. I will try and edit out all contriversal parts of the tread but since most of them are in the replies everyone will still see them and have already read them.

I don't care if anyone joins our company, there are tons of options out there, I just hope EVERYONE thinks twice about having these kind of products in their home.

So I felt compelled to share this story with you. NOT for the marketing standpoint, but for how much my heart ached when I read it, for how badly I don't want this to happen to any of you mamas. I can delete my main post, but most of the content is still here in all your replies so I just don't see any point. This was ME one year ago! Happy and content in my little "It won't ever happen to me" world. I'm glad I snapped out of it and realized that it COULD happen to me and that there was something I could do about it.

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Old 08-23-2004, 12:22 PM   #44 (permalink)
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you know what...nevahmind. i'm taking care of this right now.

i'll update asap.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:30 PM   #45 (permalink)
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So I felt compelled to share this story with you. NOT for the marketing standpoint, but for how much my heart ached when I read it, for how badly I don't want this to happen to any of you mamas. I can delete my main post, but most of the content is still here in all your replies so I just don't see any point. This was ME one year ago! Happy and content in my little "It won't ever happen to me" world. I'm glad I snapped out of it and realized that it COULD happen to me and that there was something I could do about it.

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You felt compelled to share the story? Then why not postsomething like:

A mother lost her son because she had a cleaner on the floor. Mama's please be careful while cleaning up as your little ones could get ahold of XXX cleaner and the same thing happen.

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This could have been prevented. If she had only listened, and not had the “it’ll never happen to me” mentality. It did happen. And it could happen to anyone at anytime. It is up to us as adults to provide the safest environment we can for ourselves and our children and even our pets. Several thousand children are poisoned every year!! What are the odds it could be your child, or someone you know? How long can you outrun the odds? Don’t take a chance – these are children’s lives we are talking about.
I am tempted to call your friend and tell her how truely sorry I think she is for trying to take a "friends" tragedy and use it for marketing purposes. What person in their right mind is thinking about business when something like that happens????

I think you should delete all of it. I can't believe you READ the entire email and posted it not thinking about this mothers feelings or what the people on this board might think.

Oh wait, I can.. because I doubt this is true at all. I know ONE person that did benifit from this story, that is me. Thanks to this post I know I will NEVER buy Melaleuca products if this is the sales tactics they use to deliver their product.
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