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BlueRoseMama · 03-18-2006, 01:07 PM

Will we all post our most beloved sites/magazines/journals to prove that we are not nuts?

Although I LOVE this forum and have learned so much from it, I often need more weight than "some mama on Amity said this" in my arguments because I have an intellegent and argumenitive dh. D*mn it. lol...

I was thinking a long list of posts like how they pour pesticide at the base of the banana trees, or a list of how many DDT's (carcenogens) are still being used in food production, would help all us mamas with uncrunchy dh's in our own small domestic battles over the right to feed the kids, etc. I know that over time I have gathered lots of information from this site, magazines and a few other sources that tell me that I am doing the right thing for my enviroment and my childrens world. My dh can see this now, but still it has taken him a lot of convincing to step out of the mainstream box on some things. And other things he lets go because he knows that I know more than him and it is not worth the fight I would give him if he tried to tell me otherwise.

And yet other things I have given on. Some big things too that I thought I would be die hard against I have found myself letting go because I can't find a strong enough argument. It is all about give and take... but it would be nice not to have our entire culture in his corner.

So lets make our own corner shall we?

val

Kbsmama · 03-18-2006, 05:02 PM

Thank you, Mama, I need this. I just got Disease-Proof Your Child by Dr. Joel Fuhrman from the library. I think it may be good.
Obviously, anything on bleach would be good for me.
I'll be watching this thread!!!

mamatanya · 03-18-2006, 06:11 PM

Subscribing too. Dh and I fight about bleach, food coloring, ect, etc. I'll try to find some of the online links I've had in the past. Mothering Magazine has been great. All of their informative articles have extensive bibliographies.

Maura · 03-18-2006, 06:41 PM

Hello! I am with you on this one! I need to learn how to not have to buy two of everything! We get "regular" food and healthy food. "Regular" health and beauty products and natural beauty products. "Regular" cleaning supplies and healtheir cleaning supplies. Yes, I do the shopping, but my husband brings home the paycheck and insists that I get "real" products.....$$$ waster

BlueRoseMama · 03-19-2006, 01:08 PM

Ok here is info on Heme and nonHeme Iron sources and good combos to eat to maximize the Iron intake of the body (BioAvailability):

http://www.gicare.com/pated/edtot38.htm

Here is some info on pesticide use and the highest and lowest pesticide residue in veggies and fruits:

http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/0...ue-article.htm

Pros and Cons of Cloth diapering:

http://www.gradingandexcavation.com/mw_0209_beyond.html

http://www.mothering.com/articles/ne...-of-cloth.html

Politics of Diapers:

http://www.mothering.com/articles/ne.../politics.html

BlueRoseMama · 03-19-2006, 01:12 PM

Perhaps when we are done with this we can start a crunchy FAQ file. With all of the info we have gathered together in one place with Questions like:

Why we don't circumcise. (which honestly I do, but that is a long story.)

and

Why cloth?

And each of these could have three or four links to the info we have discovered and the articles we have written about our experiences. That would have been SO helpful to me when I started out.

Ariadne Umbrell · 03-20-2006, 12:32 AM

I don't know that I can be much help referencing things, since mostly I have a bird's nest for a brain, with information feathering out.

Anyway, I don't know your politics, or anybody's DH's politics, but Michael Savage, on the radio, is surprisingly crunchy, and all about nutrition, and such. He's written books about it, and he's got a PHD in nutrition. Right now, he rants on the radio, and in books, and he's grouchy enough to hold my Dh's attention, and have my DH go along with things like nutritional yeast, and sourdough bread, and NO RED DYE. Apparently having a deep voice, and needing to shave, makes you reliable.

Andrew Weil, maybe, I think writes columns in men's magazines, not just women's mags. I could be wrong here.

ari

oldiebutgoodie · 03-20-2006, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariadne Umbrell

Apparently having a deep voice, and needing to shave, makes you reliable.

I like your sense of humor. You make me laugh. My hubby has to hear it from what he considers a reliable source as well. it doesn't matter that I said it until he reads or hears it for himself. Men

BlueRoseMama · 03-20-2006, 01:36 PM

I am stealing these links from another post about organics in this forum to use as reff:

Why Organics?:
Link to a book of the leader of the Organic Movement.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/055...lance&n=283155

Two links to web sites explaining about what pesticides are doing to our bodies and such:
http://www.cehn.org/cehn/pesticides.html

http://www.flcv.com/pesticid.html

BlueRoseMama · 03-20-2006, 01:59 PM

Once again stolen from MotherMoon and another thread.

High Fructose Corn Syrup:

http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfo...hfructose.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/5/fructose.htm
http://www.newstarget.com/003002.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...thsyrup04.html
http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200409/interview.asp

BlueRoseMama · 03-20-2006, 02:11 PM

Vegetarianism:
And kids growing up healthy vege's:
http://kidshealth.org/parent/nutriti...tarianism.html

Going Veg?
A UK site, but seems like GREAT info!
http://www.vegsoc.org/

A veg rescource guide:
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/nutshell.htm

Vegan:
This is an article from Kimbermama in another post about the factory farm dairy cows and veal.
http://www.factoryfarming.com/dairy.htm

oldiebutgoodie · 03-20-2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueRoseMama

Perhaps when we are done with this we can start a crunchy FAQ file. With all of the info we have gathered together in one place...

And each of these could have three or four links to the info we have discovered and the articles we have written about our experiences. That would have been SO helpful to me when I started out.

That's a great idea Val

michmom · 03-20-2006, 03:06 PM

can we use this thread to just complain, too?!

my dh is also intelligent and argumentative, and thinks i am way way overboard... a few days ago he caught me sniffing my armpits at the end of the night to see if my new non-aluminum deoderant was working, and he said to me, "you are 100% granola!" and i said, actually, i know of way more crunchy people than me!

anyway, we also have two seperate food lists-- we even have "regular" raisins! the only thing he's been really with me on is the cleaning supplies-- he's nagged me for ages to get rid of the murphy's oil soap, etc.

*sigh* at least i have you mamas.

alycia

mamatanya · 03-20-2006, 04:12 PM

OK, this isn't food but as long as we are collecting these websites in one place, and showing Dh what's up, here's a big one for me.
http://www.turnertoys.com/PVC_framepage1.htm

lazumoon · 03-23-2006, 12:46 AM

OH The Cleaning Products! I wish I could get my dh to stop it with the bleach and the windex and the lysol. Everytime I change a poopy diaper he's running throught the house with the lysol and suffocating me. The other day we were at the "regular" grocery store and all I could smell was chemicals (from cleaning) and I said it was making me sick and he said I was crazy. I read him something from "Chemical Free Kids" but it wasn't very convincing I guess. His grandfather is 90 years old and smokes and drinks every day and "still climbs coconut trees!" (in Honduras) so I guess he doesn't see the point, but then he's on the vegetarian crusade! I don't know, the only thing that convinces him is if I say it it'll save us money. Any good anti- cleaning chemical sites?