Re: Would you refuse to buy from/trade with/sell to a mama whose religious beliefs differed from you
ARGH!
I voted yes accidentally...LOL...I meant no, but of course I clicked the wrong one....DUH!
So, if you see one yes, just move it to the NO column for me....LOL
Jennifer
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Re: Would you refuse to buy from/trade with/sell to a mama whose religious beliefs differed from you
I clicked unsure........why? Because........I would not buy from someone who thought I was "evil" or bad for not believing in a God.........I would never use their religion against them, but I would not want to buy from someone who thought badly of me over my lack of religion. LOL. And I will be honest, I have thought twice about buying from Mamas who seem to push religion and really believe their way is the only way for everyone........why? Because I feel angry about this attitude and because I assume they would not want to sell to me anyhow. LOL. (o:
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Re: Would you refuse to buy from/trade with/sell to a mama whose religious beliefs differed from you
I voted for the it depends one...and let me explain why. I could never, ever support someone that I knew for sure was a practicing Satanist. Thats it, period...everyone else, pagan, wiccan, christian, whatever, fine..don't have a problem with it, wouldn't think twice about their religion..and have never had this problem because I don't think anyone on this board has admitted to being a satanist....though I will admit I have a hard time buying from someone that I assuredly know has different parenting practices than mine (main example discipline) Just absolutely will not, no matter how cute or cheap their stuff is...which is why I tend to avoid posts that talk about such thing...better for me not to know http://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I once bought something from someone, and then found out they did the *S* word..I felt sick all day. JMHO
Re: Would you refuse to buy from/trade with/sell to a mama whose religious beliefs differed from you
I'm not sure I understand the link between religion and commerce, but maybe that's just me....
Someone's religion has got zero to do with their product. Now, I would submit that if someone were exibiting bad environmental practices, or was going to be using the money to fund a cause I was diametrically oppsed to--then I could see how ideology and commerce might mix. But just because someone has a certain set of *beliefs*...well, as long as my dollars aren't going to support some kind of evil practice (deforrestation, white supremacy propaganda, etc) then, who cares?
I don't particularly care for Satanists either (the few I have had the good forture of meeting have been the most self righteous people I ahve ever met in my life) but I would still buy from one if she/he had something I Wanted, and the aforementioned stipulatins weren't an issue.
For me to refuse to buy from those who differ religiously ...hmmmmmmmm, where would I buy groceries, gasoline, clothing, fabric, household items...automobiles, toys, etc. IRL. I mean the top head honcho owner of most retailers *does* have a differing view. To top it off...lots of people use the name *christian* or any other religious *name*...and don't even know the meaning of the *name* they call themselves. Few people are dedicated with any depth of factual knowledge about what they call themselves. If I had that mentality...I mean, could I use electric, water or even natural gas or a telephone, or cell? Someone is making a buck in nearly every facet of life...who differs religiously.
Interesting question...now I'll read the other posts.
I have felt the same way about some of the more religious mamas vs. the spiritual mamas. I believe that there is a world of difference between the two. But, I think that it just comes down to a personality style difference, in which case, the business deal is doomed no matter what, lol
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I don't even want to know what everyone else said but I voted absolutely not. Now if there was a personality issue~yes, I'd refuse... but religious, no. I don't hate/ picket/ boycott/ shun/ people who don't believe what I believe. I buy everything I need...who gets paid at the other end? I don't know. I am told "to be in the world but not of the world". I was once an unbeliever~where would I be if all of the Christians God put in my life refused to deal with me? I have A LOT of non-believing friends....no big deal. People are people, we are all the same but yet soooo very different. No problem. I'm obnoxiously, stubbornly oppinionated and I actually have friends, LOL! I can't get tooo elitisthttp://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/wink.gif
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Re: Would you refuse to buy from/trade with/sell to a mama whose religious beliefs differed from you
Almost my thoughts exactlyhttp://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/smile.gif. I truly believe that I am to be "in the world", yet not "of the world", in order to share the love of Jesus. My definition of sharing is not 'pushing it down their throats' but living it.
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Re: Would you refuse to buy from/trade with/sell to a mama whose religious beliefs differed from you
This is the most controversial thing I've ever posted:
I usually keep my buying/selling here separate from my understanding of people's religion/spirituality/beliefs, BUT
in general, I try not to do business with people/companies who I know are likely to vote very conservatively, and this often includes people whose religious and personal beliefs lead them to do so. My reasoning is that they may also support conservative candidates and causes, and I can't afford to help them support those. I am a lesbian and my sweet daughter is adopted. Most conservative politicians vote against legalizing any form of marriage between gay or lesbian partners and most also vote against allowing gays and lesbians to adopt. These issues are just too important to me to let me intentionally support someone who supports them. I'm sad to have to think in those terms; I want my family to just be a family, but that's the way it is. kwim? best wishes. Hana
Re: Would you refuse to buy from/trade with/sell to a mama whose religious beliefs differed from you
Okay, when I said voted yes, but meant to vote no, LOL, I was thinking ONLY of buying things through this site.
However, in my daily life, I definitely use the power of my meager $$ to make statements about what I do and don't believe.
I grew up in Lynchburg, Va., (still live right up the road) home of Jerry Falwell. You can love the man, think he walks on water, but I don't. I've seen and heard first hand the things that come out of his mouth and the fallout from them. When I go into town to do my shopping, I do NOT patronize businesses that I know support him. Not because he's a Southern Baptist (half my family is Southern Baptist), but because, in my experience, he and some of his followers are the most hypcritical, back biting people I've ever encountered. If I see one more WWJD sticker on a Lexus, I'll scream. WWJD? He wouldn't be driving a freakin' $30,000 car while others starve! Just my opinion.
On the other hand, I have met people who go to his church and University who are remarkable and wonderful and actually, disagree with him.
I also don't buy from companies who test on animals, don't pay their workers dirt, or who use child labor. I only buy clothes made in the US and certain European countries or second hand. Same for shoes.
I won't buy from Nestle either.
Now, would I ever NOT buy from someone simply because they were Jewish, Christian, Muslim, whatever? No.
If they were also a sexist, pornographer, child abusing, miscreant? Yes.
So, my answer is different than the question asked. I would never discriminate solely on the basis of religion or lack there of, but I do discriminate based on the companies and caliber of people withinn them.
Hope that made sense and didn't make too many of you mad.
If you are truly offended by what said about Jerry Falwell, well, I can't help what I've learned through my own life experience. I'm not asking anyone else to feel how I do....just explaining my feelings. http://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/smile.gif
Jennifer
Nothing's Gonna Change My World -- John Lennon
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Ok if I am understanding this correctly the poll results so far are:
yes zero (three mistakenly voted yes when they meant to vote absolutely not I'm sorry if I made the wording confusing)
absolutely not 28 (reflects the three I added from yes choice)
it would depend on which faith she practices or how far hers differs from mine 4
unsure 3
The reason for my poll was that I personally have felt religoiusly discriminated against regarding transaction here. That sounds odd since I don't think I've ever revealed my personal spiritual beliefs but was a real feeling to me nonetheless. I was curious as to whether anyone else would discriminate. Remember the poll is anonymous unless you post a reply here we do not know who voted for which choice. Parenting, personality or political views aside - though I realize sometimes the line gets blurred or overlaps http://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/tongue.gif my curiousity was just a religious or faith based or spirtual one this time. Anyway thank you again everyone for taking my poll.
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