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Old 06-25-2008, 06:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Heavy question: Do you feel like the end of the world is near?

I'm wondering because my friend (who is a very conservative born again Christian) keeps saying this is what she believes. It just seems so pessimistic to me, but of course, I'm not well versed in the Bible at all. I do believe that Jesus Christ is my savior...but not sure about the end of the world being near.

I guess I was just wondering if you all could share what you think. Not so much biblical references, but what you believe.
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I used to think that we were getting close, because there have been various prophecies and teachings and scriptures. But people have been saying the same thing for centuries, and I just don't think I believe it.

I also see some people use it as an excuse for things (like NOT taking care of the environment, or not being financially responsible or whatever.) Those are extreme types of people, I know.

Just for me, I feel a peace in NOT knowing what's ahead. I don't know, and that's okay. I don't have to.

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Old 06-25-2008, 07:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No, I do not feel like the end of the world is near in any sort of religious way. I do not believe in end of world prophecy, etc.

I do, however, see evidence that the world is in the beginning stages of a cleansing of sorts...a reset or restart if you will, such as when you restart your computer if it is acting weird.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, near is a relative term. I guess I believe that according to Biblical prophecy which hasn't failed us yet, we are experiencing some end of time signs. but I think there is more to happen. I am not well versed enough to be more specific, but I will ask Dh. He's good at that stuff.


eta...I do think the rapture is something that Christians will experience before the really terrible tribulations occur though. I don't think we as Christians will see the true "end of this world". Make sense?
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No, I don't feel like the end of the world is near.

You didn't want a biblical reference, but I found this:

"But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow about his promise as some count slowness, but is forbearing toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. . . . Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire! But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace" (2 Pet. 3:8–14).
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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no, and I think that people spend too much time worrying about stuff like this.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I used to think that we were getting close, because there have been various prophecies and teachings and scriptures. But people have been saying the same thing for centuries, and I just don't think I believe it.

I also see some people use it as an excuse for things (like NOT taking care of the environment, or not being financially responsible or whatever.) Those are extreme types of people, I know.

Just for me, I feel a peace in NOT knowing what's ahead. I don't know, and that's okay. I don't have to.

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well, as a very devout LDS person, I do believe that the end of the world is near. Most Christians would probably agree. There are a lot of things that are starting to happen that I take as "signs".

However, I don't think that it's anything to be scared about. And since we don't know when it will be, it's important to live your best life and seek happiness regardless of how near or far the actual end is.

The greed and corruption in the world sickens me, so I actually look forward to it ending and a new era beginning.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:43 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, near is a relative term. I guess I believe that according to Biblical prophecy which hasn't failed us yet, we are experiencing some end of time signs.

eta...I do think the rapture is something that Christians will experience before the really terrible tribulations occur though. I don't think we as Christians will see the true "end of this world". Make sense?
That is about what we belive too.... I don't plan on seeing the end.


For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first.
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:16,17

Because you have kept the Word of My patience, I also will keep you from the hour of temptation which will come upon all the habitable world, to try those who dwell upon the earth. Rev 3:10
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My purpose is to consider the impact I have now. Today. It's not about what could or should or might happen. What world do I want right now?
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:49 AM   #11 (permalink)
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My purpose is to consider the impact I have now. Today. It's not about what could or should or might happen. What world do I want right now?
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am familiar with a lot of the current thinking/beliefs regarding fundamentalist Christian prophecies, because my ILs are in that group of folks and strongly believe that the Rapture is imminent. I don't think fundamentalist Christians would see the Rapture as a bad thing...more of a good thing for them.

There is a book I read recently called Have a Nice Doomsday which is a secular examination of why Christians believe the Rapture is coming soon. It was fairly well-written and helped explain to me the whole mechanism of how they think things will happen.

As for myself, I don't think the end of the world (as in, a big KA-BOOM!) is coming soon. I do think that the end of the world as we know it is coming soon. There are things happening with our environment and economy that are, in some cases, completely irreversible. The way in which things will play out is a mystery to me, but I think that in our children's lifetimes, things will be very, very different, and they will need a very different outlook, set of expectations, and skill sets in order to be successful.

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Old 06-26-2008, 10:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
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For those who believe the end is near, do you have a time frame? 10 years? 100? 1,000?
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Nope, and our scriptures DO have a timeframe, lol. And we are very far from it, with the world getting a LOT worse before that time. But we do see signs of the beginning of the degradation already.
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