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View Poll Results: Politically-speaking, how would Jesus be seen?
Communist 3 16.67%
Socialist 6 33.33%
Democrat 3 16.67%
Libertarian 1 5.56%
Republican 3 16.67%
Capitalist 0 0%
Anarchist 2 11.11%
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interested in your responses about this: poll for identified Christians only. Others

may reply, but not vote (please).

Okay, the Jesus you know, were he to return to earth today, politically-speaking, how would others identify him?
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Really, no one wants to discuss this?
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Political parties are man-made and God/Christ exist outside of them. My answer the above poll would have been "none of the above"
Christ's next return will be in the clouds and he will be gathering his elect from the earth.
If we're being hypothetical and Christ were to return, I believe all of his followers (Christians) would recognize him as who He is, the Son of God (no political party or label needed).
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Political parties are man-made and God/Christ exist outside of them. My answer the above poll would have been "none of the above"
Christ's next return will be in the clouds and he will be gathering his elect from the earth.
If we're being hypothetical and Christ were to return, I believe all of his followers (Christians) would recognize him as who He is, the Son of God (no political party or label needed).
I said "others" not his followers. Sure, people would categorize and label him. They do now. Besides, it is just a hypothetical discussion.

hmmm. . . interesting that there have only been two votes.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I said "others" not his followers. Sure, people would categorize and label him. They do now. Besides, it is just a hypothetical discussion.

hmmm. . . interesting that there have only been two votes.
My mistake, I thought you were asking for Christians' views. I misread your post.

All Christ ever did was preach the kingdom of God, a kingdom that has no political parties.
I guess, I can't see how anyone could put him into a political party. It's not like he was ever taking a stand for what he hoped would be law in the world. Political parties are distinct by laws and control they think the government should have in the human world, and Christ never tried to make human laws. If I were to picture him doing what he did when he was on earth (preaching the gospel), I just don't think he could be categorized into any particular political party at all.

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Old 07-28-2006, 11:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Are these not "human" laws?
Love God.
Love one another as I have loved you.
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My mistake, I thought you were asking for Christians' views. I misread your post.

All Christ ever did was preach the kingdom of God, a kingdom that has no political parties.
I guess, I can't see how anyone could put him into a political party. It's not like he was ever taking a stand for what he hoped would be law in the world. Political parties are distinct by laws and control they think the government should have in the human world, and Christ never tried to make human laws. If I were to picture him doing what he did when he was on earth (preaching the gospel), I just don't think he could be categorized into any particular political party at all.
jmo but Jesus was VERY politically involved - it is what lead to his crucifiction.
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jmo but Jesus was VERY politically involved - it is what lead to his crucifiction.
Could you explain that more? I think I'm just not understanding your viewpoint.
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Are these not "human" laws?
Love God.
Love one another as I have loved you.
I consider those God's laws.
And he wasn't out campaigning that those commandments become law (by law I mean written on paper as a decree and physically enforced by men that live on the earth).
Jesus was sharing God's commands and God's laws. Not enforcing them, but sharing them for those who chose to follow them. He was letting free will reign by sharing information and letting those whose hearts were convicted, choose to follow them or not.

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Could you explain that more? I think I'm just not understanding your viewpoint.
he was challenging the status quo set forth by the Roman occupation.

Then, think about what a political statement the parable of the Good Samaritan was.
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I also have to say I do not believe Jesus would be associated with any political party as he was not a politician. The concept that his crucifiction was political is not true in the sense that HE was in any way affiliated with any political stance./ The only thing political about his crucifiction was that the politicians of the day were afraid of his power - afraid that He would lead people in uprising against current government - afraid that people would seek His leadership instead of theirs. Afraid of the Truth. He in no way planned to or intended to or wanted to challenge the Roman occupation or the politics or government of the day. He simply came to fulfill the promise

He was not in anyway political . They tried to make Him so - but thats just not the case if you simply read the history (not biblical history, but the history of that time from a governmental perspective).

From a biblical perspective, He was sent for one purpose - to share the Truth and to die for us and our sins. To give us our Salvation. Period.
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I also have to say I do not believe Jesus would be associated with any political party as he was not a politician. The concept that his crucifiction was political is not true in the sense that HE was in any way affiliated with any political stance./ The only thing political about his crucifiction was that the politicians of the day were afraid of his power - afraid that He would lead people in uprising against current government - afraid that people would seek His leadership instead of theirs. Afraid of the Truth.
But He was not in anyway political . He was sent for one purpose - to share the Truth and to die for us and our sins. To give us our Salvation.
no, no, no, I'm not saying HE would identify himself with any political party. I'm saying, based upon his actions what would other attribute his behavior as being most closely in line with which party.

And, I believe that his message - in his time - was a radically political statement, but not that he was speaking as a politician.
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i edited my post a bit probably at the same time you were posting but I see your point having re-read. I don't know how others would 'label" Jesus politically...
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he was challenging the status quo set forth by the Roman occupation.

Then, think about what a political statement the parable of the Good Samaritan was.
Maybe you could expound on this some more for me?

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Maybe you could expound on this some more for me?
well, to start with, he hung with sinners, tax collectors, women, those of differing social classes. That was changing the status quo.
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