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Still struggling
First of all I am grateful for this forum. I did not even know it was here...I have had a hard go with this.
I had very easy cycles and fertility was never an issue for me. I did have one miscarriage, otherwise my periods were never heavy and I got them every 24 days like clock work.
Until the last few years...I have had some skipping of periods and a couple heavy ones but nothing horrible. Until June when I had a horrible cycle with huge clots and bleeding for 18 days. I ended up in ER and it was quite horrible and scarey. I finally took provera which sopped the bleeding and 13 days later I shed everything which was not that horrible.
So this cycle started July 31 and it has just been super duper light and basically spotting if not less than that. I am going on an 8 day trip on Friday so I called the doctor today thinking I should get a perscription for provera before my trip just in case heavy bleeding starts again. I want to be safe during my trip.
Anyway the doctor wants me to start provera today and take 10 days and then after I shed..start the pill. I just don't want to do it! I hate the pill. I hate drugs. I am crying as I type. I am at a loss. I don't know if I should see a homeopathic or a naturalist or what I should do but I just hate this.
I know it is not right what is going on but I don't feel like I am in a crisis. I think I can wait to take provera if I have heavy bleeding..I feel so upset.
thanks for listening!
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I want to add a few things. I cannot quit crying tonite. I feel like I don't even want to work on my eating issues until I get this underway and then I wonder if part of this cycle stuff is from being heavy. I just hate it! I keep saying that but I hate it! Oh well..maybe I should go to bed.
Oh and I hate how *****y I have been and stressed and then I wonder if the stress of Maria dying being sick etc..have messed up my cycle cuz in the past I skipped periods when big things happened like getting married and my uncle dying.
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You have been going through alot KJ
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what my doctor told me, since I'm going through something similar, is that I NEED to do provera 10 days out of the month for 3 months straight and try to get my body right back on the right track. If it doesn't improve after that time, then I have to consider an ablation or a hysterectomy.
has your doctor talked to you about anything like that, or is it just a take it each month as it comes kind of thing? Personally, knowing what we're doing and what the next step will be makes me feel a lot better about what's going on..
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Originally Posted by Korwynne
what my doctor told me, since I'm going through something similar, is that I NEED to do provera 10 days out of the month for 3 months straight and try to get my body right back on the right track. If it doesn't improve after that time, then I have to consider an ablation or a hysterectomy.
has your doctor talked to you about anything like that, or is it just a take it each month as it comes kind of thing? Personally, knowing what we're doing and what the next step will be makes me feel a lot better about what's going on..
it sounds similar to what she is saying...only mine wants me to do the pill...my midwife friend (Kristena the cheerleader at the talent show) is coming over in a bit to talk herbal options and I may see my homeopathic friend also.
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So I met with the homeopathic/friend today. It was intense..it was great. Jackie was very thorough and she knows me well...so we covered a lot of ground. One thing that came up was that my heavy periods and lack of periods etc..seem to have a pattern around grief..especially death as in Maria, my uncle etc..that was interesting. As we talked about it I wanted to vomit so it was intense.
anyway she gave me a remedy. I took it and now I am to wait 5 weeks. I did find out that each person is different so I don't want anyone taking something that might not be suited for them so let's see if this works. So for right now even the provera is way on the back burner!
This is the word she had for me
Ardent...
1 : characterized by warmth of feeling typically expressed in eager zealous support or activity <ardent proponents of the bill> 2 : fiery, hot <an ardent sun> 3 : shining, glowing <ardent eyes>
synonyms see impassioned
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wow I think it is working magic! This is what I took.
Quote:
Rooted since antiquity in paradox and polarity, duality
is the very essence of the snake, of Lachesis and of the
subject who requires this wonderful remedy. As with so
many of us, they are in contention with themselves –
the lower self opposes the higher, the animal nature
vies with the human, deceit confronts sincerity, egotism
struggles against selflessness, arrogance competes with
diffidence and perversity challenges morality.
Conscience and desire strive for dominance. The entire
sphere of spiritual conflict is the battlefield of Lachesis.
The conflict is often heroic. The venom from which the
remedy is prepared is immensely powerful and
destructive and those who require it are proportionately
of an intense and passionate nature. The Lachesis
individual is ever in danger of being possessed by
passions and feelings. They are aware of the struggle
within them, their labile emotions and thoughts and
their unpredictability. At times they feel at the mercy of
their emotions, torn between the promptings of their
heart and their head, between their thoughts and
feelings and between desire and guilt. If they are
unable to indulge their passions or sublimate their
emotions through creative release, they will have to
the Lachesis personality
Photo: The Fall of Man by Lucas the Younger Cranach. Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, Texas/Bridgeman Art Library
Coiled around the Tree of Knowledge, the snake induces
Adam, via Eve, to partake of the fruit and lose his
innocence
asterclass...
repress them and the price is emotional or physical illhealth.
The snake in movement is a miracle to behold.
Without legs to propel it the creature flows
effortlessly along, like a shining rivulet - sinuous and
silent. The entire energy of the snake is manifested in
fluidity and flow. In the course of evolution the snake
withdrew its limbs to attain flow. Its venom contains
enzymes, which dissolve and digest the tissues of its
prey, causing what was firm and solid to break down
into a fluid form, which can flow. Flow is intrinsic to
the snake and this is equally true of the Lachesis
person. In any condition where suppression of flow
or function predominates, be it emotional,
intellectual or physiological, Lachesis may be
indicated. A typical example is the cessation of the
menstrual flow at the menopause, a time of life
frequently calling for the use of Lachesis. Likewise
the appearance of the menstrual flow in a Lachesis
person will signal the relief of premenstrual
symptoms and brings a feeling of well-being.
Thus even without the extra insight of homeopathic,
proving trials, we can learn a great deal about the
human archetype which corresponds to this remedy
from a study of the mythology, the external
appearance and the natural history of the snake. A
treasure of therapeutic indications is revealed and
through the clear image of a powerful metaphor the
remedy is fixed in our memories.
The bushmaster is a master of camouflage. It is a “sit
and wait” predator, using its cryptic colouring to
deceive and ambush its prey. In a similar manner the
Lachesis individual can practice cunning and deceit to
waylay the innocent and naïve. They don a deceptive
mask to conceal their unscrupulous intentions – they
are not what they seem. They hatch plots and
schemes to catch the unwary, but also to revenge
themselves against those they consider enemies.
They are creatures of the night; it is then that they
become alert and watchful for their prey. They have
cat’s eyes, the pupils are a vertical slit and the retina
contains mainly rods giving them excellent night
vision. Lachesis is a night owl, needing little sleep,
doing their best and most creative work at night,
even into the early hours of the morning – reading,
writing, studying or enjoying stimulating
conversation, particularly about philosophy and
religion. The mind is extraordinarily active and clear in
the evening. Some become unduly vivacious and
talkative at night, but then have difficulty finding
sleep, spending hours at the mercy of their overactive
minds. Like many night-time people, Lachesis
individuals are not at their best in the morning. They
often wake into an aggravation of their complaints,
into a headache, an attack of asthma or a bout of
depression. They may come to fear sleep; such is the
state of suffering which greets them on waking.
Although a snake of massive proportions, the speed
with which it can strike defies description. It is an
explosive blur of movement ending in a death-dealing
blow delivered with deadly accuracy. As it strikes, its
mouth gapes wide, permitting the awesome, hinged
fangs to swing down so that the snake can strike and
stab at the same time, gaining maximum penetration.
Lachesis, the human, can respond to an emergency
with speed and initiative, making instantaneous
decisions and acting upon them with confidence and
alacrity. They possess a volatile capacity to react and
retaliate. They do not prevaricate or mince their words;
they can speak daggers to those who confront them.
The theme of quickness is present throughout the
mental, emotional and physical pictures. They are quick
and even hurried in everything they do. The Lachesis
mind is quick-witted, nimble, alert and highly
perceptive. They can comprehend new concepts, even
those outside their field of experience, with remarkable
facility. They speak rapidly. Often the Lachesis mind can
be too fast for others to keep up with and sometimes
the flow of thoughts demanding expression is too fast
for their tongues to cope with. On a physical level they
share with the snake an admirable athleticism, poise,
balance and co-ordination.
The remarkably active, forked tongue of the serpent
is a powerful symbol. It is constantly darted out of
the mouth through a notch in the upper jaw. It acts
as a sense organ picking up scent molecules from its
environment. The snake tests life through taste. The
Photo: Wellcome Picture Library
On a physical
level the Lachesis
person shares
with the snake an
admirable
athleticism, poise,
balance and
co-ordination
Lachesis being has a taste for life – an instinctual
hunger for life experience – a nature filled with
desire, which has an intense urge to taste all that life
has to offer. The agile, active tongue confirms the
proverbial talkativeness of the remedy, which is also a
manifestation of the remedy’s need to flow. For
Lachesis, talkativeness is often a release or vent for
repressed emotions or desires. Not only do they talk a
lot, they also speak loudly and rapidly and are
inclined to jump continuously from one subject to
another. A highly functional aspect of this loquacity is
their ability with words. They have rare linguistic skills,
often multilingual, and they are highly articulate
with a wonderful gift of oratory. The immense power
of Lachesis reaches its highest expression in the public
speaker. They have remarkable charisma and
eloquence, speaking with passion and intensity,
which is persuasive, seductive and if he wishes,
inciting. They are often extremely gifted, creative
and imaginative with the written or spoken word.
True to the serpent’s ambiguity this skill can be used
for good or evil. The forked tongue has always been
a symbol for deceit, intrigue and treachery.
The large, staring, unblinking eyes are disturbing and
compelling. All snakes lack eyelids, hence their fixed,
penetrating gaze. The never-sleeping eye, ever
watchful and alert, denotes a mistrustful, suspicious
nature – a temperament jealous, possessive and
paranoid – always expecting to be taken advantage
of, to be done in, or to be harmed in some way. The
love of Lachesis, whether for family, friends or
experienced in a sexual relationship, is a constricting
and possessive love, often tainted with jealousy. This
jealousy can become obsessive and malignant. They
can never relax, always watching their partner,
always alert for signs of infidelity, always peering,
prying and imagining. Often their jealousy remains
unspoken, pent up and seething within, and will
eventually affect their health bringing on headaches,
high blood pressure, menstrual pains, excessive
menstrual flow or asthma. Jealousy in Lachesis may
turn love into hate and may lead to violence and
tragedy, especially if alcohol is an added ingredient.
The eyes are also sharp and piercing, cold and
calculating, hypnotic. Behind them lies a sharp,
penetrating mind, which analyses everything, misses
nothing and is not easily moved to sympathy or
compassion. The same hardness and meanness of
disposition is revealed in the unsmiling, thin-lipped
mouth. Some can be as relentless, ruthless and cruel
as the serpent they mirror. They are as cryptic and
menacing as the snake lurking amongst the leaves of
the forest floor. These less common members of the
Lachesis family are not talkative at all. Here the
waters are deep and silent and harbour a dark energy,
coiled and primed, often discharged in sinister and
nefarious ways in the jungle of human life. The
venom glands of the snake are modified salivary
glands, and thus "spit" is turned into "spite". The hiss
of the viper is pregnant with S’s and so are the
utterances of Lachesis. They are spiteful, sarcastic,
sardonic, scathing, satirical, slanderous, sceptical,
superstitious, sanctimonious, self-righteous, suspicious,
secretive, sultry, sexual and seductive and we may
justly add, cynical and psychic.
The snake has always been recognised as a sexual or
phallic symbol, implying a strong sexuality and a
powerful libido or sex drive. The sexual energy is the
most fundamental energy of Lachesis and its power
lies behind the intensity, the turbulent passion and
the creative genius of the archetype. It must find
expression sexually, creatively, religiously or
spiritually. It may not be suppressed. In the young it is
most likely to be experienced and expressed in its
fundamental form – sexually. Both sexes may be
sexually preoccupied and even troubled by persistent
erotic thoughts and fantasies. The sexuality is always
coiled and ready to strike. Many will say that if their
sex life is good, life is good. It is part of the flow so
essential to snake life; it relieves tension and stress.
The female particularly brings to a relationship a
passionate romanticism and ardour, which enriches it.
She is conscious of her sexuality and its power and
uses it. She moves with serpentine grace and is able
to charge the simplest action with sexual energy.
This libido energy is also available for the highest
purposes of our existence and can transcend into
poetry, art, literature and music. The tendency to
transcend and sublimate such energy into the arts by
ardent, passionate and turbulent souls of this archetype
is empowered by one of the best known characteristics
of Lachesis – its left-sidedness. The internal anatomy of
the snake has had to be radically modified in order to
accommodate the internal organs in such a narrow
elongated body. Throughout the unique adaptations to
internal anatomy peculiar to snakes we see a sacrificial
degeneration in the left-sided organs. Translated into
human pathology this is presented as physical
dysfunction of the left side of the body, but the mental
stage upon which this dysfunction is enacted is the
right cerebral hemisphere, which is the seat of our
intuitive, artistic, imaginative and creative self. It is the
stimulus of this dysfunction that can transform a gift
into genius. Lachesis can soar like a phoenix!
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Hey thanks for asking. I meant to update but vacation and back to school got a way from me. I called Jackie Wednesday night while camping and I was sobbing. I had bled quite heavy for two days and was a wreck. It was not quite like what I went thur in June but it was quite heavy and too many clots. I was so scared, sad, angry etc. I told her I hated my body etc..She let me rant for 45 minutes and then finally she said..."Kathy this is good you are having an aggravation and this is quite normal." So I decided to hang in and trust her and then shabang wallaboom...the bleeding stopped! And..I am actually ovulating the past couple days...so I am quite pleased and yeeha no provera. I have yet to tell my doctor..sshh! I follow up with Jackie on the 23rd...that's it for now.
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that is so awesome KJ.
The snake is certianly a symbol of female power. I was taught that it was a symbol of evil for so many years, now I am learning to relax about them...lol
I'm glad you saw the homeopath and it seems to be helping. I've been seeing a N.E.T practitioner and it's amazing -- What is N.E.T.? You were wise to notice the grief issues related to your body issues and how you feel. I've been learning a lot about "cellular memory" and it's making such a difference. Of course, I continue to see my regular doctor, but it's nice to have some respite. Hope so much that things continue to improve for you. I know I have to stay very vigilant about my health or I end up overwhelmed and sick again.
Love ya
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