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Old 06-06-2008, 09:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Low Thyroid and weight loss..does this describe you?

Is tumbled onto this today and it so very clearly described me

`Herbal Weight Loss Treatment for Thyroid Related Over-Weight from Robert McDowell's Herbal Treatments. Human, Canine and Equine. Cancer Support, Radiotherapy Support, Articles and Online Consultation.

Weight Loss - Thyroid Underactive


Cost:$58
Pack: 100 ml / 8 weeks supply
Dose: 15 drops added to liquid and taken three times daily.

Underactive thyroid is given as a semi-scientific reason for many weight problems and this is to some extent true. People whose metabolism runs slowly almost always have more problem losing weight than others.

However, this can be another one of those times when we blame one particular organ and then try to manipulate the speed of functioning of this organ chemically without ever asking why on earth the thyroid is running too slowly. Again, there are a couple of diseases which can account for hyperactive thyroid but nothing much to account for the amount of hypo-activity which is found.

Herbal support to regulate thyroid is pretty simple and usually just consists of a herb called Blue Flag and another Bladderack (Giant Kelp). The Blue Flag is a glandular regulator and Kelp has all the trace elements, which are essential to proper thyroid function.

When one examines the esoteric explanations for low thyroid however, one comes up with much more useful information and insight. The thyroid is located in the throat Chakra and slow thyroid function reflects not seeing the truth about ones owns personal needs and desires.

An over caring type of person may fall into this category as some of them sacrifice their own needs in the service of others. Some of these will be the compulsive responsibility takers and they have keen insight into how other people should behave in order to manage their responsibilities or run their lives.

What they are doing however is also using all this over activity to avoid confronting the issues, which need to be addressed for the own personal fulfillment. If these issues are not addressed, it can lead one to become martyred and resentful and liable for gall problems as well as a myriad of gynecological problems.

It is easy to appreciate why herbs alone will never help the low thyroid in the long term without quite a lot of self reflection and changes in attitudes.

The low thyroid person needs to learn to let go of their fears and judgments and learn to take risks. They can continue to be just as responsible and caring but also, at times be selfish, in the sense of realizing very important but barely acknowledged personal needs and desires.

My low thyroid weight support program contains; Alfalfa, Blue Flag, Chamomile, Fenugreek, Gentian, Kelp, St Mary's Thistle and a selection of appropriate Bach Flower remedies.

15 drops three times per day taken in water and with a little self reflection and time out should start you on the path toward being able to control your weight.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I took a similar type herbal tincture a few years ago and had no benefit in symptoms or blood tests. That's not to say that there are not benefits from it and that in can support the thyroid, but IME, at least with the level of thyroid problems I have it is not enough alone.
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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hmmm. If it won't hurt my thyroid, I'm always willing to give something a shot.

That said, The Thyroid Diet is of immense support to me right now.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Its not a surprise since the thyroid controls metabolism.
I have no thyroid, so nothing to boost lol but it is interesting the herbals involved. I had Graves disease (over production of tsh - hyPERthyroidism), and a goiter - was diagnosed in 95 and chose RAIU (radioactive iodine uptake) to 'nuke' my thyroid vs a thyroidectomy. So I am and always will take thyroid replacement hormone.On my medication my thyroid levels are normal (even good actually per my bloodwork this time).
Its interesting though, I'd love to hear feedback for those with a slow thyroid that are not diagnosed with full hypothyroidism or hashimotos to see if it works for them.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I am sorry mama's. This more specifically is what I thought was interesting


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When one examines the esoteric explanations for low thyroid however, one comes up with much more useful information and insight. The thyroid is located in the throat Chakra and slow thyroid function reflects not seeing the truth about ones owns personal needs and desires.

An over caring type of person may fall into this category as some of them sacrifice their own needs in the service of others. Some of these will be the compulsive responsibility takers and they have keen insight into how other people should behave in order to manage their responsibilities or run their lives.

What they are doing however is also using all this over activity to avoid confronting the issues, which need to be addressed for the own personal fulfillment. If these issues are not addressed, it can lead one to become martyred and resentful and liable for gall problems as well as a myriad of gynecological problems.

It is easy to appreciate why herbs alone will never help the low thyroid in the long term without quite a lot of self reflection and changes in attitudes.
I dont beleive all sort of things that come my way, but that was an interesting perspective and wondered if you all saw that in yourselves.

Because I felt guilty reading that...lol
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I am sorry you feel guilty!

But it is information for you, KR to work on. SO in that way it is GOOD information....
'I feel guilty because...'(you don't have to answer to us, just to yourself when you are ready)

Interesting because a lot of mothers..once they become mothers discover they have low thyroid...

This certainly speaks to..make time for yourself...take care of yourself...
which we tell each other all the time. But it is more than just a girls night out...it is TRULY taking time for ourselves...
daily walks,
meditation time
a hobby that fills our soul
following a passion...
it can be just 15 minutes a day...
but it has to be focused on YOU..noone else.

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I agree...I see this lack as a very spiritual issue...something like the meditation/prayer..even the walk would fit in that catagory.

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When one examines the esoteric explanations for low thyroid however, one comes up with much more useful information and insight. The thyroid is located in the throat Chakra and slow thyroid function reflects not seeing the truth about ones owns personal needs and desires.

An over caring type of person may fall into this category as some of them sacrifice their own needs in the service of others. Some of these will be the compulsive responsibility takers and they have keen insight into how other people should behave in order to manage their responsibilities or run their lives.

What they are doing however is also using all this over activity to avoid confronting the issues, which need to be addressed for the own personal fulfillment. If these issues are not addressed, it can lead one to become martyred and resentful and liable for gall problems as well as a myriad of gynecological problems.

It is easy to appreciate why herbs alone will never help the low thyroid in the long term without quite a lot of self reflection and changes in attitudes.

The low thyroid person needs to learn to let go of their fears and judgments and learn to take risks. They can continue to be just as responsible and caring but also, at times be selfish, in the sense of realizing very important but barely acknowledged personal needs and desires.
"very important but barely acknowledged personal needs and desires." I am taking care of so many people right now, but I'm not one of them. And yes, I have hypothyroidism. And had a hysterectomy. And my gall bladder removed last year. All 3 of the health problems it mentions! This really hits home. Did you find it online somewhere? Thanks!!!
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Yeah, that link in the op should take you to this herbal teacher that has done some research on it. I am finding alot of his ideas really helpful when trying to help people.

Take care of yourself Mary.

For the first time in years I am putting myself first, took a random trip to be with my kids in the Tetons. Been here 1 week and have not had bad physical symptoms like I have for 3 months, I am happy, and have already met some awesome women, several herbalists, and attended a womens drum circle and drug my ass home at 2:30 in the morning.
That is things I never do for myself, but watching the full moon rise over the rocky mountains with it making the tetons glow all night long while we drummed....I tell you alot was released.

Mary, you are so precious. Do something for yourself mama. It is ok. {{{huge loving hug}}}
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