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Old 03-27-2007, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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PMDD or pre-menaupase

I hate how I feel this is going on about 7 months, the anxiety was really bad but I think made worse by the neighbors we had, we have since moved and that has gotten better but I still am having a lot of symtoms of both of these. How do I know which it is? My regular doc was no help and I need to get to my OB but have to have enough for gas and the appt.

I was having irregular bleeding and am on the pill to help it, which it does but I feel like I am pmsing all the time.

any thoughts would be great I feel so alone in this


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Old 03-28-2007, 11:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Kate, a couple questions. Do you know how old you mother was when she journeyed into menopause?

How old are you? nursing? how many children?
How is your diet. That is a huge one beleive it or not. If you eat foods devoid of nutrients, your body struggles badly. The liver has a hard time processing the hormones and makes things worse.
I will check in with you again tommarrow.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for responding, lets see, I e-mailed my mom and this is what she said..oh she is 51. "I had my hysterectomy in January 1994, they left my ovaries in because of my age. I don't think I have gone into menepause, I havn't had any symptoms that I know of."

I am 30 have 3 children 8,almost 6 and 2.5
I am no longer nursing
My diet overall is good, we try to eat healthy, I do get a lot of cravings for sweets but try not to indulge.

thanks for any insight you can give.
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Hi sweetie.
Thanks for answering. I am in a family crisis at the moment. when things calm down I will get back with you sometime over the weekend.

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Old 04-01-2007, 01:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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kate, have not forgotten you! Family issues have sucked my timeand energy the past few days....Keep checking back. Me or another may have some good ideas hun.
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thanks no problem it helped just getting it out.
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think that PMDD site had a checklist/chart for you to track your symptoms for a couple of months. I have a dx of PMDD - and it was OBVIOUS because of the timing and the getting worse. From the start of my cycle until ovulation I would be a normal happy go lucky woman. Once I ovulated, I started getting ornery, getting headaches, being downright mean, my clothes bothered me, just being an absolute **tch. I would feel immediate emotional relief once I started. I could tell exactly when I started bleeding because it would feel as if a weight was lifted up off of me. I would just keep getting worse and worse until I started... the last couple of days were nightmarish for everyone who knew me. Then I would end up backpeddling and trying to put relationships right from things I did and said the previous 2 weeks. It was 2 weeks of hell. NOT FUN. And I felt like I was really loosing my mind.

I did go on Celexa for about a year, and it helped a LOT.
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Sweet sig Heather Pretty special there.

Ya know, that sounds like some of my cycles. I woudl be ok until about midway and then a huge decline would occur. Herbs I feel did help me but it was a huge change, a negative change I felt. Then before my period would come I was a total biotch too. (that is how I found out about motherwort actually) Then cycle comes and I am AOK, happy with the world again.

Hormones are a trip. They effect all other hormones and obviously our life. Too many can cause disease. to little can cause disease.
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also wanted to add that premenstrual dysphoric disorder is linked to a lack in B-6 and calcium carbonate.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Guide Pyramid recommends that individuals two years and older eat 2-3 servings of dairy products per day. A serving is equal to:
1 cup (8 fl oz) of milk
8 oz of yogurt
1.5 oz of natural cheese (such as Cheddar)
2.0 oz of processed cheese (such as American)

ood Calcium (mg) % DV*
Yogurt, plain, low fat, 8 oz. 415 42%
Yogurt, fruit, low fat, 8 oz. 245-384 25%-38%
Sardines, canned in oil, with bones, 3 oz. 324 32%
Cheddar cheese, 1 ½ oz shredded 306 31%
Milk, non-fat, 8 fl oz. 302 30%
Milk, reduced fat (2% milk fat), no solids, 8 fl oz. 297 30%
Milk, whole (3.25% milk fat), 8 fl oz 291 29%
Milk, buttermilk, 8 fl oz. 285 29%
Milk, lactose reduced, 8 fl oz.** 285-302 29-30%
Mozzarella, part skim 1 ½ oz. 275 28%
Tofu, firm, made w/calcium sulfate, ½ cup*** 204 20%
Orange juice, calcium fortified, 6 fl oz. 200-260 20-26%
Salmon, pink, canned, solids with bone, 3 oz. 181 18%
Pudding, chocolate, instant, made w/ 2% milk, ½ cup 153 15%
Cottage cheese, 1% milk fat, 1 cup unpacked 138 14%
Tofu, soft, made w/calcium sulfate, ½ cup*** 138 14%
Spinach, cooked, ½ cup 120 12%
Instant breakfast drink, various flavors and brands, powder prepared with water, 8 fl oz. 105-250 10-25%
Frozen yogurt, vanilla, soft serve, ½ cup 103 10%
Ready to eat cereal, calcium fortified, 1 cup 100-1000 10%-100%
Turnip greens, boiled, ½ cup 99 10%
Kale, cooked, 1 cup 94 9%
Kale, raw, 1 cup 90 9%
Ice cream, vanilla, ½ cup 85 8.5%
Soy beverage, calcium fortified, 8 fl oz. 80-500 8-50%
Chinese cabbage, raw, 1 cup 74 7%
Tortilla, corn, ready to bake/fry, 1 medium 42 4%
Tortilla, flour, ready to bake/fry, one 6" diameter 37 4%
Sour cream, reduced fat, cultured, 2 Tbsp 32 3%
Bread, white, 1 oz 31 3%
Broccoli, raw, ½ cup 21 2%
Bread, whole wheat, 1 slice 20 2%
Cheese, cream, regular, 1 Tbsp 12 1%

Calcium Needs in mg per day
14 to 18 years 1300
19 to 50 years 1000
51+ years 1200
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Needed b-6 per day

The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) is the average daily dietary intake level that is sufficient to meet the nutrient requirements of nearly all (97 to 98%) healthy individuals in each life-stage and gender group. The 1998 RDAs for vitamin B6 (in milligrams), are: 1.3 mg for men and women under age 50; 1.7 mg for men and 1.5 mg for women over the age of 50, 1.9 mg for pregnant women, and 2 mg for women who are breastfeeding.

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Thanks I am going to start keeping track on the pmdd site and I am going to add more calcium to my diet as I do think I have been lacking.
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I have been tied up with the Meade family fundraiser....I am sorry I have not posted that list yet!
good on raising your calcium....I found I need to do that too.

Yogurt is one of the best ways I have read. Susun Weed, esteemed herbalist, says 1 quart a week of yogurt takes care of that need.
Do you like yogurt?
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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QUOTE=organicmama;2503536]I have been tied up with the Meade family fundraiser....I am sorry I have not posted that list yet!
good on raising your calcium....I found I need to do that too.

Yogurt is one of the best ways I have read. Susun Weed, esteemed herbalist, says 1 quart a week of yogurt takes care of that need.
Do you like yogurt?[/quote]

Thanks, I do although I don't buy it often, I will put it on my shopping list.
I am keeping track on that site and have an appt with my doc so hopefully she can help me further.

thank for continuing to check in and give me tips.
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