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mamabear · 11-06-2009, 02:20 PM

hope something helps. i would be careful stretching it, as when inflamed/sore stretching can sometimes make QLs worse. try it, proceed with caution.

xt to the rescue?

or i have just done massage for so long that the idea of a friendly, platonic butt rub doesn't faze me?

tracey · 11-06-2009, 02:21 PM

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"man-giggles"

yeah. man-giggles. they'd be cute except we're in the midst of divorce. amicable, sure...but divorce. it took a lot of back pain for me to be able to ask him to put his hands on me there

man + divorce = hrm

tracey · 11-06-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mamabear

hope something helps. i would be careful stretching it, as when inflamed/sore stretching can sometimes make QLs worse. try it, proceed with caution.

xt to the rescue?

or i have just done massage for so long that the idea of a friendly, platonic butt rub doesn't faze me?

noted about stretching. i just did some off the side of the bed that seemed to help some?

xt? um. hrm. no. can't fathom that thought.

maybe ciara. if i see her anytime soon (need to get my son's coat from her anyways so maybe.) she's got really strong hands. (not that xt doesn't...it's just different

)

< occurs to me that i maybe can't separate out glut massage from other things with regards to friends, which is probably why i can't have xt do it

i've had it done professionally, no problem...but amongst friends, hrm. that thought is a little weird for me. >

freedomlover · 11-06-2009, 02:31 PM

I would lay on a frozen pack of peas and try to do pelvic tilts when the pain subsides, learn good body mechanics, work on core strength once the crisis is over(using good body mechanics) and try not to let the pain bully you into feeling too down. Accept the days you are in pain and laid up and do lots of cerebral philosophical thinking to make them seem like useful and valuable days spent.

hematite · 11-06-2009, 04:01 PM

I have a similar issue with my back that flares from time to time with odd regularity. My chiropractor tells me ice on for 15 minutes every hour. If you want, you can alternate with heat, but no more than 15 min/hour (or so she says).

then other thing that helps is a trochanter belt. They are about three inches wide and equipped with velcro. Amazon.com: trochanter belt you lie down on the bed and someone straps you in low. It is ususally used for diastisis symphis pubis before or after birth for women whose pelvis has opened up too much. take a look at this page for correct placement. Trochanter Belt If you don't want to buy a belt, sometimes a mans wide belt will work too, but it digs more than a regular trochanter belt. I am so sorry you are in that pain,,, i unfortunately know what you are talking about ( i think). the belt will stabilize things until you inflammation decreases and you can work on core stuff then.

Glitterbeam · 11-06-2009, 04:11 PM

I hope some of these suggestions can give you relief.

I don't know if someone suggested this (reading thread quickly on phone while waiting for eye dr appt) but if I were in your exact shoes- I would contact any chiropractor I could find until I found one who would barter his care for holiday pictures for his family, done by you.

tracey · 11-06-2009, 04:30 PM

i got some chelated magnesium today. i'll p/u some more epsom salts later. stretched a bit.

going to get ice in a minute...have been doing heat but i'm not sure that's helping any more.

hastings · 11-06-2009, 04:52 PM

I swear by rolling on a tennis ball under the gluts and QL's like Lauren said. How tight are your legs in general? I know when my QL's tighten I can trace it clear back to my knees and quads upsetting my gluts which try to compensate and then throw my back out. Working your quads and the IT band along the side of your leg is much easier to do yourself, which in turn relaxes the muscles in your gluts, making them easier to work out and might possibly let you loosen your QL's more easily.

It's why I always get ticked off at my clients who complain about burning backs but won't let me work their legs and butts. Working you back out when the problem isn't there only helps so much and so long.

Never tried the magnesium. Great tip Lauren.

ElDucko · 11-06-2009, 05:38 PM

Heat alternating with ice, good.

Massage at the top of the butt, your friend.

Tylenol with ibuprofin, good if your insides can handle taking both at the same time.

Lay on your back, and on a flat surface. Then raise one leg at a 90 degree angle and reach up with your hands [it's okay if your head & shoulders go up as long as they're in the same plane as each other] and put your hands anywhere from your knee to the ankle, where ever they are comfortable. Right now don't worry about your belly, just try to get your IT band to stretch. If you can't get 90 comfortably that's fine too, just spend as much time on the right leg as you do the left and hold and slowly work it so the not-lifted leg is on the floor and the lifted leg is 90 degrees or closer to your face.

Those cat-stretches you did when preggo are going to hurt like a sob so don't do those. Instead, go up to a wall where there's no pictures hanging. Put your hands on the wall about shoulder height. Your feet should be shoulder-witdth-ish apart, toes pointed right at the wall. Let your head hang, totally relax it. As you can slowly walk your hands down the wall. It's okay to bend your knees or tiptoe if you need to. Just keep the neck super relaxed and the head just dead weight. You want the um, neck muscles to strech and relax. You should reach a point where your shoulders are about 90 degrees to our hips, and you should feel your head "pulling" that long muscle along your back. Don't go to pain, just go to where you feel that muscle and let it relax if you can.

Your feet, they should go in heat [like a foot bath] and then in cold too, something about nerve endings. Have someone massage them.

Oh! If you have a can of cold [not frozen, just very very cold] soda someone can rub it up the side of your sacriliac and up to the bottom of the lungs and then up the other side [or better yet, one in each hand].

If I lived by you I'd help. I've had scholiosis forever and backaches forever.

Also does it hurt wicked bad if you sit and then try to tuck your tail under? I might do some hip-stretching yoga/pilates stuff if so.

((gentle hugs)) hope something I said helps for you mama.

tracey · 11-06-2009, 05:42 PM

hastings, my legs are actually unusually tight. i've noticed that lately and didn't connect. my hamstrings are so tight i can't make a 90 degree angle when laying on my back...and i'm usually extremely flexible.

xt made a really strong point just now...we were able to isolate when this started to a particularly bad birth i had about 3 weeks ago. i thought it was when my friend was visiting, but actually it was before that...i lost my first baby just before she visited. the night the baby died, i remember being sooo sore i could barely move. we tried so hard for her. my body was broken afterwards...as was my spirit. the next night i spent at ciara's so my kids could be cared for while i was upset...they ran me a really hot jacuzzi bath because my body hurt so much.

that was the start of my back pain. this is emotional. ding ding ding.

xt's suggestion was journaling with sage/lavender and whatever else would help me release the emotion.

any other ideas? (i realize this sounds waaaay weird but i think she's totally spot on. actually, no...i know she is.)

hastings · 11-06-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tracey

hastings, my legs are actually unusually tight. i've noticed that lately and didn't connect. my hamstrings are so tight i can't make a 90 degree angle when laying on my back...and i'm usually extremely flexible.

xt made a really strong point just now...we were able to isolate when this started to a particularly bad birth i had about 3 weeks ago. i thought it was when my friend was visiting, but actually it was before that...i lost my first baby just before she visited. the night the baby died, i remember being sooo sore i could barely move. we tried so hard for her. my body was broken afterwards...as was my spirit. the next night i spent at ciara's so my kids could be cared for while i was upset...they ran me a really hot jacuzzi bath because my body hurt so much.

that was the start of my back pain. this is emotional. ding ding ding.

xt's suggestion was journaling with sage/lavender and whatever else would help me release the emotion.

any other ideas? (i realize this sounds waaaay weird but i think she's totally spot on. actually, no...i know she is.)

It doesn't sound weird at all. It sounds exactly right. I'm a big believer in crystals myself. Do you have a rose quartz around? Sounds like you need that sort of uncomplicated uncompromising love. Maybe let it rest awhile on your heart chakra, but i find it works nicely on the sacrum as well.

But work your legs out too.

mamabear · 11-06-2009, 06:15 PM

Ah yeah, good point taking it to the hamstrings, hastings. And wow, Tracey. I think she is totally spot on.

lilac · 11-06-2009, 06:34 PM

That is so sad. I'm so sorry Tracey.

I think you all are right. It is amazing what we hold tightly when we are faced with incredibly hard times.

This may be totally out due to too much stretching, but I wonder about doing some yoga? Do you have any videos, dvds or ondemand cable? If this is possible, I would prioritize it in your schedule for emotional and body healing. I don't think it is going to cure you or anything, but I wonder if it would help.

Much love. xo.

tracey · 11-06-2009, 06:38 PM

(i have never done yoga.)

irinam · 11-06-2009, 06:55 PM

I am so sorry mama

Emotional trigger can affect so many things in our bodies

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any other ideas? (i realize this sounds waaaay weird but i think she's totally spot on. actually, no...i know she is.)

OK, you asked.

I am 99.99% sure you are NOT going to do it.

The reason I am still posting this (being 99% sure and all) is that my husband with his chronic back pain resort to my bees when nothing else works (I use bee stings to alleviate systematic inflammation and it DOES work)

He will do it all - strech, massage, use creams, etc., before finally telling me - "OK, sting me!" He swears it works on him as well.

There are many "if's" and "but's":

1) you should not be alergic to bee stings.

2) It will only make sense to try it if the pain you are having is due to tense muscles (as it is in my husband's case) or inflammation.

3) You should have access to bees.

Obviously it will do absolutely nothing if the pain is due to bone mis-alignment.