I am worried about the impact this will have on my religious freedoms and practices. They have been under attack for a while now and I am fearful that this administration will cause problems for people with similar beliefs as me.
If you are truely fearful of your religious beliefs being trampled on, then please make your votes based on the candidate(s) more likely to restore the first amendment (among other amendments) and call your state senators and represenatives to tell them you feel strongly that the Patriot Act should be sunsetted (is that right?) in 2009. You should get everyone in your church involved, calling various peope ever day to really show that this is an important issue to you. Being truely educated is the best weapon against fear, at least for me. I have been fearful this entire administration, because more and more rights were being taken away. Such as freedom of assembly, freedom of/from religion, freedom of speech, the fourth amendment, etc. Most of the Bill of Rights is gone under the PATRIOT ACT (i had no idea it was an acronym this whole time, I feel silly now)
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I didn't care either way - but I find it amazing that we have someone who was born prior to the civil rights act who has just been declared the president-elect!
and I'm dying to know who will be governor here, and it's neck and neck.
warning, flippiant comment to a friend, she'll totally understand I'm joking to relieve the stress, so don't spazz.
Korwynne, who did you vote for, Chicklet-teeth-guy or Scary-Hair-Lady?
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unless you've got a girl. Hopefully someday there will be a candidate (who is not Hillary, pretty please!) so we can break down the gender wall as well.
I think that Hillary came so close and that Palin came so close is a valid hope to my girls. That's jmo though, you can disagree and I'll still you, cause you rawk like that. It has nothing to do with awesome juice. I swear. (inside joke between us, sorry, had to be said; again, tension relief)
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Not that what he endured when he was three would really have a lasting effect on our presidential policy.....
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Really?!? You don't think it impacted him? I have totally clear memories of being two and three and hungry. Not having a place to live and nothing to eat. If I were in a position of power it would DEFINITELY shape what choices I made. I can remember hunger. It is not something you forget easily. Maybe you've never been that hungry and cold and afraid and wet and didn't know why you were this way. Maybe you were never teased for being different. I don't know you, so I can't say whether or not you have personally experienced these things. I know I have, and I know that they shaped me, and I sure as hell remember them.
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Gawd, I feel like such a pessimist right now, and I HATE pessimism. But I HAVE to ask - do you think they write their own speeches?
Haven't read the whole thread - but guess what? Obama does write his own speeches. Unless you think he's actually lying about that. I don't. He wrote a few books too.
If the comments about people crying last night have to do with watching Jessy Jackson in tears last night. Think about what he's seen and done in his life time. He tried running for president before and probably thought no black person would ever hold that office in his lifetime. After all the civil rights work he has done, this is a bid deal. The same for many of the people last night. People of all back grounds can look at this with hope that all people can be judged as "just people" now, not by their skin color.
I really believe that Obama's simple message of hope and everyone doing their part was what the country needed at this time. He was the one selling the product that most of the country wanted to buy.
One of the things that really resonated with the crowd last night, and at some of the rallies, was that we need to reach out to each other, to forget our differences and work together.
I am so glad this election is over! No matter how friendly and good natured some of it has been, I am ready for the political bickering to end.
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I am worried about the impact this will have on my religious freedoms and practices. They have been under attack for a while now and I am fearful that this administration will cause problems for people with similar beliefs as me.
I am not religious at all and I was terrified that McCain would force his religion on me and my family. By this I mean, Christians are constantly citing the bible for reasons for and against things. As someone who does not believe in the bible, it seems ridiculous to force non-Christians to accept those beliefs and create laws. If you believe that abortion is wrong, don't have one. It's that easy. If you believe that stem cell research is wrong, then by all means refuse treatments/cures that result from it.
My views on abortion do not mean that I am pro-abortion. It simply means that I know that I cannot presume to know what is best for another person.
unless you've got a girl. Hopefully someday there will be a candidate (who is not Hillary, pretty please!) so we can break down the gender wall as well.
I do have a girl and she happens to be African American. So yes she feels she can be or do anything.
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I think what I'm having trouble understanding is why the tears? Really? I'm not trying to be snarky, just trying to understand what about this man creates tears. I am not crying that McCain didn't win, kwim. I guess i'm really put off by the whole celebrity issue
how can anyone be numb to the fact that WE now have an african american president? and i don't care what % black he is, that does not play in to this scenario at all for me. he is real. is it not in front of your face obvious that our country participated in an historical election & we made history last night? to me that is incredible. it does give me hope that our country , and perhaps world can change for the better under his leadership.
it was emotional & i cried a few tears.... it was a incredible thing we did last night, how can anyone not be proud & feel the emotion of it?
I looked at my little ones this morning after they woke up......we told them who won (they were wayyyy too tired to stay up) and they cheered and danced.....and knew that someday, they could be standing where Obama was last night. Not hoped, wished, or wanted, but knew. I voted for him not because of the color of his skin, but because of what I believe he can do for us. I have hope now, and hope is a powerful thing - especially in our house at this time in this economic **** hole I feel we are in. I cried, I smiled, I slept like a baby. I have hope again, and hopes that my girls - all of my girls - can grow up and do whatever they put their minds to.
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Not to blatantly compare the two, but please remember Hitler himself was very charismatic, he told Germans what they wanted to hear and he made them rich.
Neither is someone who is actually related to Dick Cheney, Harry Truman, AND the Bushs, etc. etc. etc. 25Prez.jpg (image)
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Just a couple of points
1-VILE
2-BLOODLINES!?!?!? Srsly? I am totally screwed because i have teh crazee in my family. Oh well, my political aspirations (AND MY CHILDREN'S!) smashed.
3-I think your tin foil hat is on waaay toooo tight
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Just a couple of points
1-VILE
2-BLOODLINES!?!?!? Srsly? I am totally screwed because i have teh crazee in my family. Oh well, my political aspirations (AND MY CHILDREN'S!) smashed.
3-I think your tin foil hat is on waaay toooo tight
on point 1- I don't think it's possible to compare hitler and well anyone else. Not even a serial killer like Dahmer has come close to comparison.
on point 2- I'm screwed too.
on point 3- I think we're talking foil body armor.
Charlotte--up until a couple of weeks ago, I didn't know who I was going to vote for. I knew I wasn't voting for McCain simply because I think he would be 4 more years of what the Bush administration has given us and we don't need that. I wasn't convinced that Obama was "all that" either. But...
When I think of it, I really truly feel hopeful. I'm a Christian and don't feel like any of my religious freedoms are threatened. How do you think he would threaten them for you? If you are strong in your faith, how would an elected official change that for you? What could possibly come between you and God? Surely your faith is stronger than that.
If it's all about abortion, I think we've been down this road before. I don't believe there is a significant amount of people who are PRO-ABORTION. Most people are in favor of life. So to say that Obama or the democrats being pro-choice is pro-abortion is completely false. It just means that they are saying "hey, we are going to protect your freedom to choose for yourself" even if they don't believe in it.
Same with same-sex unions. Obama is personally against them. But it shouldn't be his choice to decide who you should and shouldn't love/unite with.
If anything, I believe that this party is going to protect the freedoms of ALL citizens--not just those of conservative Christians.
I am hopeful. Cautiously, of course. But hopeful. The last 8 years have been sucky for our country. Change is what we need and Obama *does* equal change. I'm excited to see what happens.
Oh, and though I rarely even stopped to realize that Obama was a black man (it's such a non-issue for me), I do realize how monumental this is and it is worth celebrating. :*)
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