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Old 08-23-2002, 03:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well, October 21st, the new USDA regulations go into effect, and this question should 'theorectically' be answered. The national standards for organic food and the use of the term 'organic' on the label are as follows:
Food must be produced without the use of most conventional pesticides, petroleum based or sewage sludge based pesticides, bioengineering, or ionizing radiation. The product must be 95% organic to carry the organic label. For more on the USDA regulations visit www.usda.gov/nop.
I know that there is some opposition (or was) among organic farmers about the government stepping in in this way, but I don't know much about their arguments.
One other point..buying organic local is the best idea, obviously..I belong to our local CSA, coop and buy from a local organic chicken/beef/pork farmer (NOT veg here) and I can SEE the place where the plants and animals are raised. I guess the pesticides could be hidden around the corner, but I kinda doubt it. All the places that ship out their stuff are local to someone, right? It is always possible that someone is lying, but much of the time, people in the organic field buy into the whole lifestyle and I just don't feel like it's likely. I won't stop buying organic because of the possibility of someone lying. JMHO!
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Old 08-23-2002, 04:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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While I agree that is definately better for you to eat organic, I do think that shipping does have a large environmental impact. It isn't just the fuel, it is the truck itself, the roads the noise pollution etc. And, as mentioned above, many local farmer may use pesticides, but only as a last resort. They are expensive, and the little guys don't have a lot of extra cash to throw around. We used to belong to a local CSA, but she stopped doing, so now I try and buy local, in season stuff. Organic is very limited where I live. It is very expensive and frankly it isn't very good because no one buys it and sits in the grocery store forever. I check out the roadside stands, alot of times people have stuff from their gardens and they aren't using pesticides. Also, by supporting the local farmer, we are helping to preserve what little greenspace is left around here. That is pretty important to me.

Beth have you checked out the farmers markets? I lived in Boston until 3 years ago and I used always shop the farmers markets. They usually had one or two organic farmers with booths there. I went to the one in Davis Square, but I think they have one in Arlington and Newton too.
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Old 08-23-2002, 07:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I wanted to add a few things about the consequences of not eating locally.
A lot of organic food is grown in California. But now that the organic movement is getting so big and popular, many organic foods are also imported from other countries (especially in the winter months). I think we need to become conscious of what that entails. For example, if you are buying certified organic bananas, they are often grown in central american countries. If new fields are dug, then rainforest may be destroyed, local wildlife (monkeys, rare birds, etc) are displaced...they have less and less land to survive on. If the bananas are grown in fields already designated as farmland, then the rainforest just might be saved, but they are displacing local foods that were grown to feed native peoples. It is so sad that many children are starving...many mamas have so little to eat that they cease to even produce milk ...just so we can have "fresh" produce all winter long. And that is not even going into the environmental damage caused by trucking (or flying) this produce across many countries, then trucking it to all the local stores.
It is such a difficult decision. I love bananas...I cannot envision going through life never eating another banana. But I also need to be conscious of what eating a banana really means. I cannot blissfully think that "certified organic" =all good.
Maybe bananas will become an occasional treat...rather than an every single day staple as they are now. Maybe when our Ohio apples are ripe next month, I will choose apples over bananas.
Being conscious just fully helps me make the best possible decision!! Christy
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Old 08-23-2002, 08:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I live in CA, and my understanding is that the organic produce industry here is subject to a great deal of inspection and regulation. I would definitely buy local whenever possible, I do so myself, but I rather doubt that only 1/2 of the CA produce sold as organic actually is, because there is testing for pesticides, soil testing, etc. Besides, most of the organic farms around here are small family farms (and on a irrelavent tangent, a lot of those families homeschool) and I would suppourt them over factory farms even if they were spraying!

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