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Five Reasons to Stop Saying "Good Job!"

Five Reasons to Stop Saying "Good Job!"

By Alfie Kohn

NOTE: This article was published in Young Children, September 2001;
and, in abridged form (with the title "Hooked on Praise"), in Parents
Magazine, May 2000.
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Hang out at a playground, visit a school, or show up at a child’s birthday party, and there’s one phrase you can count on hearing repeatedly: "Good job!" Even tiny infants are praised for smacking their hands together ("Good clapping!"). Many of us blurt out these judgments of our children to the point that it has become almost a verbal tic.

Plenty of books and articles advise us against relying on punishment, from spanking to forcible isolation ("time out"). Occasionally someone will even ask us to rethink the practice of bribing children with stickers or food. But you’ll have to look awfully hard to find a discouraging word about what is euphemistically called positive reinforcement.

Lest there be any misunderstanding, the point here is not to call into question the importance of supporting and encouraging children, the need to love them and hug them and help them feel good about themselves. Praise, however, is a different story entirely.

Here's why.

1. Manipulating children. Suppose you offer a verbal reward to reinforce the behavior of a two-year-old who eats without spilling, or a five-year-old who cleans up her art supplies. Who benefits from this? Is it possible that telling kids they’ve done a good job may have less to do with their emotional needs than with our convenience?

Rheta DeVries, a professor of education at the University of Northern Iowa, refers to this as "sugar-coated control." Very much like tangible rewards – or, for that matter, punishments – it’s a way of doing something to children to get them to comply with our wishes. It may be effective at producing this result (at least for a while), but it’s very different from working with kids – for example, by engaging them in conversation about what makes a classroom (or family) function smoothly, or how other people are affected by what we have done -- or failed to do. The latter approach is not only more respectful but more likely to help kids become thoughtful people.

The reason praise can work in the short run is that young children are hungry for our approval. But we have a responsibility not to exploit that dependence for our own convenience. A "Good job!" to reinforce something that makes our lives a little easier can be an example of taking advantage of children’s dependence. Kids may also come to feel manipulated by this, even if they can’t quite explain why.

2. Creating praise junkies. To be sure, not every use of praise is a calculated tactic to control children’s behavior. Sometimes we compliment kids just because we’re genuinely pleased by what they’ve done. Even then, however, it’s worth looking more closely. Rather than bolstering a child’s self-esteem, praise may increase kids’ dependence on us. The more we say, "I
like the way you…." or "Good ______ing," the more kids come to rely on our evaluations, our decisions about what’s good and bad, rather than learning to form their own judgments. It leads them to measure their worth in terms of what will lead us to smile and dole out some more approval.

Mary Budd Rowe, a researcher at the University of Florida, discovered that students who were praised lavishly by their teachers were more tentative in their responses, more apt to answer in a questioning tone of voice ("Um, seven?"). They tended to back off from an idea they had proposed as soon as an adult disagreed with them. And they were less likely to persist with difficult tasks or share their ideas with other students.

In short, "Good job!" doesn’t reassure children; ultimately, it makes them feel less secure. It may even create a vicious circle such that the more we slather on the praise, the more kids seem to need it, so we praise them some more. Sadly, some of these kids will grow into adults who continue to need someone else to pat them on the head and tell them whether what they did was OK. Surely this is not what we want for our daughters and sons.

3. Stealing a child’s pleasure. Apart from the issue of dependence, a child deserves to take delight in her accomplishments, to feel pride in what she’s learned how to do. She also deserves to decide when to feel that way. Every time we say, "Good job!", though, we’re telling a child how to feel.

To be sure, there are times when our evaluations are appropriate and our guidance is necessary -- especially with toddlers and preschoolers. But a constant stream of value judgments is neither necessary nor useful for children’s development. Unfortunately, we may not have realized that "Good job!" is just as much an evaluation as "Bad job!" The most notable feature of a positive judgment isn’t that it’s positive, but that it’s a judgment. And people, including kids, don’t like being judged.

I cherish the occasions when my daughter manages to do something for the first time, or does something better than she’s ever done it before. But I try to resist the knee-jerk tendency to say, "Good job!" because I don’t want to dilute her joy. I want her to share her pleasure with me, not look to me for a verdict. I want her to exclaim, "I did it!" (which she often does) instead of asking me uncertainly, "Was that good?"

4. Losing interest. "Good painting!" may get children to keep painting for as long as we keep watching and praising. But, warns Lilian Katz, one of the country’s leading authorities on early childhood education, "once attention is withdrawn, many kids won’t touch the activity again." Indeed, an impressive body of scientific research has shown that the more we reward people for doing something, the more they tend to lose interest in whatever they had to do to get the reward. Now the point isn’t to draw, to read, to think, to create – the point is to get the goody, whether it’s an ice cream, a sticker, or a "Good job!"

In a troubling study conducted by Joan Grusec at the University of Toronto, young children who were frequently praised for displays of generosity tended to be slightly less generous on an everyday basis than other children were. Every time they had heard "Good sharing!" or "I’m so proud of you for helping," they became a little less interested in sharing or helping. Those
actions came to be seen not as something valuable in their own right but as something they had to do to get that reaction again from an adult. Generosity became a means to an end.

Does praise motivate kids? Sure. It motivates kids to get praise. Alas, that’s often at the expense of commitment to whatever they were doing that prompted the praise.

5. Reducing achievement. As if it weren’t bad enough that "Good job!" can undermine independence, pleasure, and interest, it can also interfere with how good a job children actually do. Researchers keep finding that kids who are praised for doing well at a creative task tend to stumble at the next task – and they don’t do as well as children who weren’t praised to begin with.

Why does this happen? Partly because the praise creates pressure to "keep up the good work" that gets in the way of doing so. Partly because their interest in what they’re doing may have declined. Partly because they become less likely to take risks – a prerequisite for creativity – once they start thinking about how to keep those positive comments coming.

More generally, "Good job!" is a remnant of an approach to psychology that reduces all of human life to behaviors that can be seen and measured. Unfortunately, this ignores the thoughts, feelings, and values that lie behind behaviors. For example, a child may share a snack with a friend as a way of attracting praise, or as a way of making sure the other child has
enough to eat. Praise for sharing ignores these different motives. Worse, it actually promotes the less desirable motive by making children more likely to fish for praise in the future.
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Once you start to see praise for what it is – and what it does – these constant little evaluative eruptions from adults start to produce the same effect as fingernails being dragged down a blackboard. You begin to root for a child to give his teachers or parents a taste of their own treacle by turning around to them and saying (in the same saccharine tone of voice), "Good praising!"

Still, it’s not an easy habit to break. It can seem strange, at least at first, to stop praising; it can feel as though you’re being chilly or withholding something. But that, it soon becomes clear, suggests that we praise more because we need to say it than because children need to hear it. Whenever that’s true, it’s time to rethink what we’re doing.

What kids do need is unconditional support, love with no strings attached. That’s not just different from praise – it’s the opposite of praise. "Good job!" is conditional. It means we’re offering attention and acknowledgement and approval for jumping through our hoops, for doing things that please us.

This point, you’ll notice, is very different from a criticism that some people offer to the effect that we give kids too much approval, or give it too easily. They recommend that we become more miserly with our praise and demand that kids "earn" it. But the real problem isn’t that children expect to be praised for everything they do these days. It’s that we’re tempted to
take shortcuts, to manipulate kids with rewards instead of explaining and helping them to develop needed skills and good values.

So what’s the alternative? That depends on the situation, but whatever we decide to say instead has to be offered in the context of genuine affection and love for who kids are rather than for what they’ve done. When unconditional support is present, "Good job!" isn’t necessary; when it’s absent, "Good job!" won’t help.

If we’re praising positive actions as a way of discouraging misbehavior, this is unlikely to be effective for long. Even when it works, we can’t really say the child is now "behaving himself"; it would be more accurate to say the praise is behaving him. The alternative is to work with the child, to figure out the reasons he’s acting that way. We may have to reconsider our own
requests rather than just looking for a way to get kids to obey. (Instead of using "Good job!" to get a four-year-old to sit quietly through a long class meeting or family dinner, perhaps we should ask whether it’s reasonable to expect a child to do so.)

We also need to bring kids in on the process of making decisions. If a child is doing something that disturbs others, then sitting down with her later and asking, "What do you think we can do to solve this problem?" will likely be more effective than bribes or threats. It also helps a child learn how to solve problems and teaches that her ideas and feelings are important. Of
course, this process takes time and talent, care and courage. Tossing off a "Good job!" when the child acts in the way we deem appropriate takes none of those things, which helps to explain why "doing to" strategies are a lot more popular than "working with" strategies.

And what can we say when kids just do something impressive? Consider three possible responses:

* Say nothing. Some people insist a helpful act must be "reinforced" because, secretly or unconsciously, they believe it was a fluke. If children are basically evil, then they have to be given an artificial reason for being nice (namely, to get a verbal reward). But if that cynicism is unfounded – and a lot of research suggests that it is – then praise may not be necessary.

* Say what you saw. A simple, evaluation-free statement ("You put your shoes on by yourself" or even just "You did it") tells your child that you noticed. It also lets her take pride in what she did. In other cases, a more elaborate description may make sense. If your child draws a picture, you might provide feedback – not judgment – about what you noticed: "This mountain is huge!" "Boy, you sure used a lot of purple today!"

If a child does something caring or generous, you might gently draw his attention to the effect of his action on the other person: "Look at Abigail’s face! She seems pretty happy now that you gave her some of your snack." This is completely different from praise, where the emphasis is on how you feel about her sharing.

* Talk less, ask more. Even better than descriptions are questions. Why tell him what part of his drawing impressed you when you can ask him what he likes best about it? Asking "What was the hardest part to draw?" or "How did you figure out how to make the feet the right size?" is likely to nourish his interest in drawing. Saying "Good job!", as we’ve seen, may have exactly the opposite effect.

This doesn’t mean that all compliments, all thank-you’s, all expressions of delight are harmful. We need to consider our motives for what we say (a genuine expression of enthusiasm is better than a desire to manipulate the child’s future behavior) as well as the actual effects of doing so. Are our reactions helping the child to feel a sense of control over her life -- or to
constantly look to us for approval? Are they helping her to become more excited about what she’s doing in its own right – or turning it into something she just wants to get through in order to receive a pat on the head?

It’s not a matter of memorizing a new script, but of keeping in mind our long-term goals for our children and watching for the effects of what we say. The bad news is that the use of positive reinforcement really isn’t so positive. The good news is that you don’t have to evaluate in order to encourage.


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Old 01-22-2002, 12:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thank you so much for sharing. The article gave me a lot to think about.

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What a great read, Amy!!! Thank you for sharing it. You are such a wealth of knowledge.

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This really is a great article. See I really like what you post. This is totally in line with non-coercive parenting. Most of what I read at the nvc site you posted was very much tcs. http://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/smile.gif



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It's an interesting article, but I don't know if I neccessarily agree. It almost seems that we're at the point where we can't say anything or do anything without somehow damaging our children. I grew up in a family where we were just expected to do good and be good. I would get all A's and never be told "good job." I knew my parents loved me and thought I was doing well in school, but it would have been nice to hear that once in a while too. I agree that we can praise too much and go overboard, but I don't think we should go to the other extreme either and give our kids the impression that we don't recognize their accomplishments. I mean, if you publish a book, how would you feel if 1.) no one said anything about it or 2.) the only thing that was said was "What was the hardest part of writing it?" or "What is your favorite character?" I can't speak for everyone, but I know i would be totally bummed if that was the reaction I received - I'd really want someone to tell me "I read it and it's great!" I think it's the same with our kids. I don't think we have to ooo and ahhh over everything but if we never say "Good Job" they might start to question whether their work really is good and whether they really should take pride in their accomplishments. Well, I think I'm way rambling now, but you get my drift. http://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/smile.gif

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interesting, but i tend to disagree. i don't thinkrewrds or compliments are any more coervise to kids than they are for adults...for eample, my dh doesn't *just* work for the satisfaction...he works for a paycheck, and really appreciates a kudo good job...likes to know his work is acknowledged and appreciated..

i don't think a "wow. you showed up for work" would do much to encourage him...

i don't think coercion and shaping are the exact same things...and i *do* think children need shaping...

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I think it is agood thing for children, adolescents, adults, etc to be told they did a good job

Its not patronizing or setting them up for a fall...

I find it a bit irritating that the author of the article finds praise to be a bad thing...

I know a lot of people who just wish they could have gotten a word of praise from their parents... and denying praise when it is earned... hmmm

If I made dinner and my husband said "you used a lot of green beans in this" I would be wondering, 'Huh"???

But if he said, "dinner was great" Or "good chicken, honey" That works a little better

Doesn't make me a praise junky, just means I like to be appreciated

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Hm. I've been thinking about this article for most of the day, and I can honestly say that I never thought about it before. Today I became conscious of how I praise Sam (or not) and I don't find myself saying "great job", or similar, too often. I say things more like "wow! you did it!" or "yes! that really looks like a circle!" with a lot of enthusiasm.

I guess I'd rather not consciously curb my enthusiasm. I like how Sam brings out the happy, energetic person in me, and I like showing him that I notice what a great kid he is and what cool things he does. I don't notice Sam waiting for my praise, but maybe I'm not one of those praise junkies the article describes. We do do our share of high-fives for a job well done, but normally only for things that I know were challenges for him to do.

I also like that Sam praises me. "You did it, Mommy, you did it!" LOL!

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I too have been thinking about this article and I tend to agree with what someone said about 1)its nice to get praise from people you love and who care about you.... their opinion matters to you. 2)while it is important to try and be as good parents as we can, I also think that sometimes good parents beat themselves up to much about how every little thing is going to destroy their children. Fact is that there are some very put together, happy, loving people who have had crappy --really crappy -- parents... and equally there are some really miserable, disfuntional people who had ok/pretty good parents.

However I also agree somewhat with the article. There are some parents who are genuinely loving, caring, kind parents who are trying their best and end up praising every single acheivement their child makes "oh wonderful honey!" "you are such a wonderful swimmer" "what lovely table laying" "you are such an amazing artist" etc all day, every day, every freaking breathing minute! I agree that this can destroy a person's self esteem ....

...this happened to a good friend of my mother's. Her mother thinks she is the most amazing person that has ever lived, that she is truly cleverer, more creative and better than anyone else. My mum's friend grew up doubting herself. She knew that she wasn't always the best, the cleverest, the most creative and so she learned that her mother's praise was empty. That her mother's praise could not be trusted. And she started to wonder that if she felt that way and her mother felt another that perhaps there was something wrong with her, not her mother and perhaps SHE had poor judgement that could not be trusted. She also grew up in fear of never quite meeting her mother's expectations and that some day her mother would realise that she wasn't 'all that' and her mother would be disappointed in her. Also that what she felt may not be valid and she second guesses herself constantly. It seems more her mother tells her how wonderful she is, the worse she feels.

So, what am I saying? Well, a balance... praise well earned, or even when someone just needs a boost is wonderful... but all the time? especially when it isn't deserved...?

Lastly, I agree that I wouldn't think much if my husband commented on the number of green beans in my stew. It vaguely smacks of the unspoken "you used TOO many green beans" sentiment whether meant or not.

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I'm really pleased to hear everyone's thoughts on this!

First of all, my intent with posting this was to get everyone *thinking*. I think it's safe to say that I was successful. http://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/wink.gif I am grateful that the responses have been respectful yet honest. Thank you to everyone!

I tend to be in line with what Bethan has to say, in that it's really about striking a balance. Everyone enjoys hearing compliments and receiving recognition for what they do. But, think of how it would feel for your entire worth (and the amount of love from your family/friends) to be determined based on your performance, what you do for others, how you look, talk, walk, draw, clean, cook, parent etc. Unfortunately, this is true for some people (adults included) AND it's NOT uncommon! I know people who will do ONLY what's expected of them based on what they will get in return, whether it be praise, money, or whatever.

As far as working to get a paycheck...that's a choice that we make. We can either NOT work, and not be able to provide for our family or rely on welfare temporarily until it runs out. Our society is very much based on rewards for what we do, and most of us wouldn't do the work we do if we weren't paid. Right?

Anyway, I'm not here to convince anyone of anything...just want to offer alternatives to think about! Truthfully, the last two paragraphs of the article sum it up for me very well.

"This doesn’t mean that all compliments, all thank-you’s, all expressions of delight are harmful. We need to consider our motives for what we say (a genuine expression of enthusiasm is better than a desire to manipulate the child’s future behavior) as well as the actual effects of doing so. Are our reactions helping the child to feel a sense of control over her life -- or to
constantly look to us for approval? Are they helping her to become more excited about what she’s doing in its own right – or turning it into something she just wants to get through in order to receive a pat on the head?

It’s not a matter of memorizing a new script, but of keeping in mind our long-term goals for our children and watching for the effects of what we say. The bad news is that the use of positive reinforcement really isn’t so positive. The good news is that you don’t have to evaluate in order to encourage. "

The book Punished by Rewards is REALLY interesting if anyone cares to read further. http://www.amitymama.com/images/icons/smile.gif


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Re: Five Reasons to Stop Saying "Good Job!"

I think I'm agreeing with you Amy. My thought was that if my overall INTENT is clear eg unconditional acceptance, not trying to get ds just to meet my standards of behaviour - then praise has its place. I have to be careful not to use it as manipulation - the old carrot and the stick philosophy. I think as long as my intent is clear and clearly communicated then the praise and restraint along the way should not be out of hand.

Again, thanks for your thought provoking posts! Gets dh and I to talking about it too.

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Re: I'm really pleased to hear everyone's thoughts on this!

I agree with Bethan - there has to be a balance. My mother was never complimented by her father. Not ever. She went to great lengths to try to please him, and always felt bad when he did not acknowledge her efforts. OTOH if you're continually complimented for things you *know* you're not that good at, it becomes empty praise & you don't believe it (or in yourself) any more.

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Re: Five Reasons to Stop Saying "Good Job!"

oh also, on trying to coerce children to behave a certain way...

I think it is absolutely the job of parents to teach their children appropriate ways to behave. It is not alright to steal, it is not alright to make a mess and not clear it up, it is not alright to hurt people's feelings without good reason, it is not alright to put yourself in danger...etc etc. Sometimes (ok, a lot of times) it is entirely possible to get children to understand this by reasoning and explanation. However sometimes you DO have to pull rank.

Also I believe that everyone does things for two reasons... internal and external motivation. Internal motivation being that you do things because 'it is the right thing to do' (like I tell my son), that it makes you feel that you are a good person or that you feel a sense of pride or accomplishment. My older son and I talk about this a lot.

HOWEVER

The culture we live in also revolves a heack of a lot around external motivation (praise, rewards, money etc). We have all seen communist countries where money has not been used as a motivator. They generally end up poor and lacking essentials for life such as food, adequate housing etc. Truth is, there are many jobs in our society that need to be done but that aren't that great and people do them because they have the external motivator of money. There are things *I* do because of external motivators. If I am always totally self centred and selfish around my friends then I will not have friends for very long. I have a motivation not to steal my neighbours car not only because it is wrong and I would have a hard time living with myself but also because I don't want to go to jail -- big external motivator there for me!!! anyway I'm babbling...


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Old 01-23-2002, 03:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Five Reasons to Stop Saying "Good Job!"

The green beans post got me thinking.

My dh rarely praises my cooking, yet I know that he's very proud of the fact that all of our friends love to come over and eat when I cook. They would not need to praise me for what I do. Their repeat business keeps me motivated to try new things. I think that this is a good example of how intrinsic motivation can work. They could praise me to the skies, but not want to eat my food and I'd know something was wrong.

It is a very delicate balance, but I think that it's good to have the dangers of over-praising your kids pointed out.

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I really don't want to pull open a can of worms. I really understand and respect other people's parenting ideas, so please let's just leave it at that. But I did want to throw in my experience.

I have to start this out by explaining why I am explaining lol. I really hate the idea that I HAVE to pull rank on my children. In a dangerous situation I will but I don't think it is very respectful.

Nobody pulls rank on me. I will heed people's advice and make my own decisions that I alone am responsible for. I trust the people around me as I hope my children tr