amitymamaThe Attachment Parenting Community

09-18-2002, 10:23 PM

talin is not vaxxed and will not be vaxxed....
I was never vaxxed.
I have 2 cousins that i grew up with who were also never vaxxed.
I attended public school, was in lots of youth activities, I've traveled quite a bit (in and out of country)... never had problems.

As for vaxxing for measles, I must ask WHY??? It's a prettymild illness, won't kill ya!

I must say, I agree w/ everything mzbees said!!

I also recommend reading Dr. Mendelsons book-"How to Raise a Healthy Child, In Spite of Your Doctor"
Also Bob Flaws book "Keeping Your Child Healthy With Chinese Medicine"
Both talk about why not to vax and how to treat the illnesses naturally.

Also I don't even think tetnus shots are necessarry... our bodies develop natural immunities to tetnus anyways... it lives on everything...
I've never been vaxxed against it and I know I stepped on several rusty nails as a kid... never got infected!

Please read the info in the links mzbees posted and check out those books... too many kids get hurt w/ vaccinations!

Akayasmama · 09-19-2002, 02:21 AM

Thanks for posting those websites! Dh wants to vax the new baby and I am totally against it...so now I will be even more prepared with info for him! It was a major struggle with Akaya- the doctor would have me in tears everytime I left the office and told me my questions were (basically) stupid and paranoid! JEEZ! I ended up just not going back to the doctor, but I would highly suggest finding one that will be supportive if you decide to delay vaxs.

I was just thinking a little more about vaccinations and I remember that a couple of years ago when I left the U.S. I got a hep b and hep a vax...and I was sick for 3-4 days afterwards...really, really tired, achey, headaches, my arms hurt where the injections were... Can you imagine a new baby going through it- a person 1/22 of the size of an adult???

09-20-2002, 08:46 PM

have read and researched the links provided, as well as many more...

and STILL, I have agonized over this decision. The "pro-vaxers" and the "NO-vaxers" all have used the same scare tactic, IMO...
"if you do/don't vax, your child will get sick and DIE!!!!"

I dont like that. I HAVE found some good info that simply presents the information and allows the parent to make an informed decision, and NOW, after MUCH worry,
I am pleased to say that I feel comfortable with DELAYING, at the very least( a decision that even dh is comfy with

) and possibly having no more vax's...

I finally realized that NO, I do NOT have to have my son vaxed on the ped's schedule!!!!! That is SO freeing!!! IF I choose to have him vaxed, I CAN WAIT!!!!! YAY!!! There are some that I have always planned on denying, but the others can wait!!

mzbees · 09-20-2002, 09:01 PM

I think you have a very healthy outlook on this subject Mama2Nurse.

I agree, there are militants on each side of this debate that use unecessary words to SCARE people. There are other ways of getting information out there without saying your child will DIE.

(from Ely, he's still on a high from his Birthday

)

09-21-2002, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by kayasmommy
I was just thinking a little more about vaccinations and I remember that a couple of years ago when I left the U.S. I got a hep b and hep a vax...and I was sick for 3-4 days afterwards...really, really tired, achey, headaches, my arms hurt where the injections were... Can you imagine a new baby going through it- a person 1/22 of the size of an adult???

I had a patient recently that came for her shiatsu 2 days after getting vaxxed for her upcoming trip to China... she said that w/in hours of getting vaxxed she had a fever, severe headache, and that she had insomnia for the past 2 nights, as well as nausea, frequent sweating, and swollen fingers....

About 6 months ago i had a patient come after being vaxxed for hepatitis and rubella (voluntary because she'd never been vaxxed and a doctor talked her into it)... she said for a week after getting the vaccinations she had nausea, diarreah, heat flashes, dry mouth, blurred vision, and dizziness.

I don't think a baby will necessarrily die if vaxxed, but I do think that the vaccinations are toxic, and risky, and have a history of being linked to allergies, immune deficiencies, SIDS, and autism....even in delayed vaxxing... to me the risk is not worth it... and the fact that I've been a very healthy person my whole life w/out ever being vaxxed.

Akayasmama · 09-21-2002, 04:34 PM

I have question...how protected are breastfed babies from these diseases if the mother is immunized for them???

dawnadelle · 09-21-2002, 09:55 PM

Excellent thread! Excellent information. I feel so empowered to have more info. on this stuff.

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http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/hepbnlr.htm

This site had great UN-sided, NON-biased information.

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Also I don't even think tetanus shots are necessary... our bodies develop natural immunities to tetanus anyways... it lives on everything...

I've also heard this too... that it has been found to be unnecessary and production of it being limited.

The saying "Knowledge is power" is so true it's scary Mamas!

momgoddess · 09-21-2002, 10:04 PM

I should have stopped vaxxing my children after my FIRST born almost died after getting her pertussis shot at 2 months. Then maybe my second child wouldn't be autistic, had I learned the first time around....I still hadn't learned the 3rd time around, but my son who is 4 hasn't had anything since 1 yr and my son who is 17 months hasn't had any since 6 months and my new baby, who is almost 2 months has not and will not get any vaccines.