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Old 09-22-2003, 11:15 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Many crazy things happen at school. I remember in first grade, I had a teacher who actually did attach a tail to you for tattling. To this day I am still confused as to what is what. I do not think that a teacher has the right to brush off what is going on in their classroom and threaten the victim for telling on the kid attacking them. I know that for quite some time I hid during recess just so I wouldn't have to see any of the other kids. I never told on any one for any reason, even the time a kid pulled up my dress so four other little boys could see my panties. Humiliation is a tactic that works. I hope I can spare my kiddos some humiliation. Do what you can to find out exactly what is going on in the classroom. It might not be an environment you want your little boy in.
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Old 09-22-2003, 11:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Wow...well please tell me what I should have learned b/c the only thing I have learned is that this teacher can threaten kids that she'll put a tail on their bums if they "tattle tale". The only thing I have learned is that this teacher told the class this and made at least one child think that he cannot tell the teacher things.

I also learned that regardless of whether someone has the title "teacher", it doesn't mean it makes them a trustworthy person.

Sorry, but I am peeved majorly that she thinks this is okay to threaten the kids. And, I am pretty sure this was simply a threat (and lie) b/c she told them she would go to the principals offices ti get the tail and when I called down there, she said (in the office) that she had no idea what I was talking about. So either someone is lying to me or the teacher is lying and threatening the kids with this. Sorry, but, yes, I consider this threatening my child with humiliation.
Guess I misunderstood, I thought you didn't talk to the teacher just the office staff (who in general can be clueless). And I thought it was the assistant teacher (many of whom I have also had problems with as a parent and a teacher) that made the remark. Perhaps the assitant teacher needs more observation from actual educators.

Of course that is humiliation and is stupid. Again I would first talk to the teacher AND assistant teacher directly, then the principal then the superintendent. They may be unaware that the assistant teacher has said something so dumb. And the assistant may lie about it, I wouldn't be too suprised.

I would also sit myself in the class to observe as long as I felt I needed to. Sometimes that helps the teacher straighten up or for the parent to see what is going on, you can take notes in to the principal. Then you can decide whether to pull him out and how high to take the complaint/concern. People say stupid things, but as teachers we need to be super careful because some off handed remark can be misunderstood by kids. Or not.

Sorry, sometimes I talk in "teacherese". I meant that this was a "teachable moment" for you with your son, to teach him the difference between tattling and sticking up for yourself regardless of that the assistant teacher has told him. And that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing, but he did the right thing in telling you.
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Old 09-23-2003, 01:11 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Since we're all talking horrible school stories, when I was in elementary school (K or first grade) at lunch I didn't like some of the food that I had gotten in my lunch (I had paid for a school lunch), and so while sitting with my friends, I was mixing up the foods that I didn't plan to eat. Well, a lunch lady came by, saw me doing it, scolded me and made me take a bite of the food I had mixed up (mashed potatoes, beef gravy, and some kind of cherry dessert...it was pretty gross, and I can still remember the taste). I can still remember that day, and being embarressed as she made me do it, and feeling that since she was an adult I had to do what she said. Personally she had no right, since I had paid for the food, and should have been able to do what I wanted with it.

And my younger brother was bullied and picked on at elementary school and eventually was pulled out to homeschool.

We homeschool here. Wouldn't do it any other way.
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:16 AM   #19 (permalink)
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That's awful Cindy . Deffinately raise heck at that school tomorrow. We all hope that all our children's teacher are wonderful, nice, kind, trustworthy, fair, etc... Teachers are human and some (hopefully very few) are JERKS!

In 4th grade I had a music teacher who refused to allow students to go to the bathroom. She told us she would give the girls corks and the boys rubber bands . One day I couldn't hold it and I just walked out. After I used the bathroom I went to the office because I was afraid to go back to class. I was crying to the secretary (who happened to be my neighbor) because I was sure I'd get in trouble. When I told her everything including the rubber band and and cork threat she sent me in to the principles office. He talked to other students in the class to verify what I said and the woman was gone (I assume fired, maybe she quit) within days.

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Old 09-23-2003, 02:27 AM   #20 (permalink)
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And my son got seperated from his entire class for the day because he ALMOST called a girl something. Thats against the no bully policy at Devin's OLD school. At his new and improved school, I no for a fact that his teachers commend him for catching himself and thinking before he talks. I know this because I'm his new teacher.

I had a similar incident in which Devin was kicked in the groin by a student -It left bruises, and he told his gym teacher, his regular teacher, his teacher's aid, and they did nothing. When I went to the school in the morning they actually pulled him out of class to say that he had not told enough people. I went nuts! How many people does a kid have to tell?!? One - mom. I took care of it. I am so happy Devin is staying at home with me now.

I'm so sorry for you and your situation. Get it straightened out right away. I feel so bad for kids that are picked on. I know most teachers work really hard trying to help the kids. Devin had several wonderful teachers, but sometimes the beauracracy really gets in the way. Good luck!
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