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Old 05-01-2008, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Grieving 64 Years Later

Yesterday I was listening to Terry Gross on NPR. (A 'Final Salute' to Fallen Marines : NPR if you want to read more)
She was talking to a reporter who followed around a Marine that is part of a pair (the other is a chaplain) whose job it is to notify families when a loved one has been killed in Iraq. (He wrote a book called Final Salute)

As you can imagine, this was a heart-rending interview and discussion. As I cried in the car while listening to this, I realized that my own grandfather had died in a war (WWII). Rather, he is presumed dead. There was never that awful knock on the door. My grandmother was in a displaced persons camp with my (newborn) mother in a different country anyway.

I don't know this story. It was not talked about. My grandfather was never talked about. My mother never knew him. My grandmother had plenty to deal with travelling across Europe and later to America (starting out pregnant and arriving in the US with a 5yo) with a younger brother and her own mother to care for. So my grandmother just did what needed to be done.

I don't even know when she found out that her husband was last seen in the operating room (he was a doctor) in a mobile hospital just before it was bombed. I know she was bitter about her loss. But she never talked about it except to say that she had done enough for her country, she had given her husband. I only heard this once.

All of this came to me in a flash as I cried over the story of a soldier who died while his wife was pregnant. He slept with the baby blanket she had knit knowing that he would not be home in time for the babies birth but wanted the baby to know what he smelled like.

As my heart filled with grief over this soldier whom I don't know, my own families story dropped into my head and it occurred to me that (I would guess) no one ever grieved my grandfather. That generation would grit their teeth and bare whatever was dealt them. They had to do that to survive and move on.

I then thought of the Family Consellations work Deborah has mentioned. Which I obviously REALLY, REALLY need to read. I want to grieve for my grandfather. Not for only for myself, but also for my mother who grew up w/o a father. For my grandmother, who remained single for the rest of her life. For the joy and stability they missed. For how different things could have been.

The situation made (or amplified) my grandmothers strength and power and gave me an amazing role-model of a woman. But what if he had come back from the war to be with us?
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That is really amazing, Natalia. Wow.

You can grieve for this lost grandfather...for your grandmother's bitterness..for your losses...
with whatever words you can put to it. Obviously your intuition is kicking in and ready. Be gentle with yourself, proceed as you feel comfortable. Journal on this and see what comes up. That will give you the story, the words to tap on.

My mom (an only child) lost her father suddenly to a heart attack when she was 12 yo. She NEVER speaks of him('I don't remember him!) I have always thought this strange and such stuck energy for our family. It will be good one day when I release it. Thanks for reminding me about it
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Natalia,
What you've uncovered is huge .... I'm doing work with a client right now and connecting to her missing grandfather was huge for her.
Way to go!
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Natalia,

I would like to share the following with you. It happened in 2006. I posted it on a different message board. I'm hopeful that it may in some small way be helpful to you.

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April 4, 2006

My husband has a really cool military assignment right now.

It involves bringing closure for families of another time and another place ...

It involves the 'greatest generation' and the ultimate sacrifices that they made over 60 years ago ...

imagine if you were alive during that time ...

and over 60 years later ...

you still didn't know what happened to your loved one when you sent them off to protect this great land ...

what would be the greatest gift that you could receive in 2006 --- 64 years later?

I wish that I could say more ...

I can, in time.


April 28, 2006

Now that this has 'hit' the papers ... and all the reporters are pestering the families ...

I can tell you about it!

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In 1942, during World War II, an Army plane was full of fuel and bombs. (sorry for the lack of technical knowledge). There were seven soldiers aboard this aircraft.

This particular plane is known for the large amount of fuel that it carries and for its large amount of weapons. This Army aircraft was sent on a mission to bomb enemy targets.

Towards the end of the assigned mission, the aircraft was given its directions for coming back to the home base. The aircraft no longer had any explosives aboard and was very low on fuel... (this was part of the orders). The particular flight plan took the Army aircraft directly over a German occupied village. As the Army aircraft flew over the German occupied village, the aircraft came under heavy fire.

That was the last communication with this aircraft EVER. It was felt in 1942, that the aircraft had probably gone down in the ocean, or had gone down under enemy fire. At least that is what the surviving family members were told.

Fast forward to 2002 --- A villager in a remoter part of the world comes into town and tries to sell two sticks and a set of American dog tags to a local merchant. The merchant feels that something is just not right, and refuses the items. The merchant notifies the authorities, who then notify the American embassey.

The three items are then confiscated from the villager, and annalyzed. The 'sticks' are in fact leg bones. The villager takes the American recovery team to where he found the 'sticks' and the dogtags. He takes them along remote paths up to 10,000 feet where the air is always foggy and the mountains are not visable.

The American recovery team finds a complete World War II crash site COMPLETELY INTACT in 2002!!! The 1942 aircraft crashed into the mountain and was hidden in a valley at 10,000 feet. The valley is only accessible by footpaths and the crashsite had been completely undisturbed by humans (with the exception of the old villager for 60 YEARS!)

The aircraft was intact. This was very odd, as those particular aircrafts always explode on contact because of their fuel levels and exploding devices. For what ever reason, this aircraft was preserved. The American Recovery team was able to quickly identify the aircraft by its number, as all aircrafts were registered under the social security number of the pilot. They were able to identify the names of ALL men aboard that plane.

The recovery team found skeletons and bones scattered everywhere around the crash site. They were able to recover all the bones and the dogtags for all 7 men!

Then came the daunting task of figuring out which bones belonged to each skull.

They were able to identify five of the seven skeletons. Then they ran into a problem. They had two skulls, and a set of bones. With their 'testing' they could not seperate the last set of bones.

At this point, they took DNA samples from the last two remaining soldier's families, and were able to identify the remains of the last two soldiers.

This whole process took four years ...

and in 2006, all seven soldier's remains were ready to be returned to their families.

This is where my husband came in.

He was brought in on this assignment in March of this year. He worked closely with a man from the Pentagon in notifying one of the seven families that the remains of their loved on were found and would be returned home.

At the beginning of this month, the Pentagon man flew to Oklahoma and drove with my husband to a remote community in Oklahoma to notify the family their soldier was finally coming home after 64 years!

This was 'underwraps' until all SEVEN families were notified.

Yesterday, my husband went to the airport in a large city and met the airplane. He was in full military dress. He and a team went into the belly of the plane and carried out the casket. It was draped with an American Flag. Once the casket was on the runway, my husband saluted the casket, and then the casket was loaded into a transport vehicle.

One interesting thing... as these men were unloading the casket, peering out from the plane were several soldiers that were taking this flight to another military post. They watched as this situation unfolded.

Then my husband and several men and the transport drove their procession over two hours to a tiny Oklahoma town where they turned the casket over to the local funeral home.

Last night, the family was presented little pins that identify them as the family of the deceased soldier.

This morning, the funeral was held in honor of this World War II soldier, and the grave side service is being held at the Military National Cemetary at 1:00 p.m.

All of this was reported in a newspaper yesterday.

There are six other funerals happening around the United States for the other six soldiers.

There are two really neat things that I would like to share...

1 - There were hundreds of small bone fragments that could not be properly identified. All these tiny bone fragments have been collected together, and a joint funeral in going to be held for all seven soldiers in Arlington National Cemetary in August of this year. All seven families are going to be flown out to Arlington for this special funeral. The seven sodlier's bone fragments are to be placed inside a World Ward II uniform and it is going to be sewn shut and placed into a coffin and burried in the ground. The headstone will read something like "Here lies the remains of (name of seven soldiers) of the (name of aircraft) in 1942 (list location).

Is that so cool? NOTHING like this has ever happened before. This is the FIRST undisturbed World War II crash site ever found!

The other really neat thing is ---

those two soldiers that were difficult to identify... they are RELATED ... and none of the families even knew it!

These two families met together for the first time earlier this month, and they are COUSINS!
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have goosebumps thinking about this again, Natalia. It really is motivating me to tap on some issues with my Maternal Grandfather who dies when his only child was 12(my mother) His loss feels like a big HOLE in my family. My mother refuses to talk about him and my Grandmother(his widow) idolized him.

IN any case..
good stuff!
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing that Pamela.

And thank you Deborah and Linda for your continued support.
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