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Old 10-28-2004, 03:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question A lady e-mailed me about my breast pump I am selling and said...

Quote"It is unsafe to share a pump. The Medela is an open system, therefore cannot be cleaned thoroughly which would put the buyer's baby at risk. Thought you would want to know."

I have used a used pump before with out problems and never heard of anyone else having trouble. Besides I never used the tubing just the single pump. The flaps can be replaced and I think this comes with extras and I never had trouble sanitizing it.
Has anyone else heard about this risk before?

Added Mine is the (Medela Lactina Double Breast Pump System Manual)
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well,

that is Medela's official stance on it.

The use of a pump by more than one user voids the warranty (on the Pump In Style types, not the pumps intended for multi-use, like the hospital grade Lactina).

Te theory that since it is an open system, breas milk (and it's contaminates, say if someone had an infectious disease like Hepatitis) could be harbored in the valves, etc. and passed on.

I bought my PIS from a very close friend who barely used it for four month, but it was a personal choice. I couldn't even begin to afford a new one.
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The instruction manual says (on the PIS, anyway) that milk can overflow, down the tubes, and into the pump itself. Therefore, it is a single user pump. The Lactina and classics, however, snap hand pumps into them, so a used Lactina or Classic just would need the new personal parts, and would be good as new. (these are the ones usually sent out by rental companies, etc).
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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After loaning out my pump to a friend and finding milk in all kinds of places that I couldn't figure out how it got there, I would NEVER buy a used pump. Just not worth the risk in my opinion. In fact, I thought that it was illegal in some places to sell a used breast pump (other than those designed to be multi-user, of course).
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Well,

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that is Medela's official stance on it.

The use of a pump by more than one user voids the warranty (on the Pump In Style types, not the pumps intended for multi-use, like the hospital grade Lactina).

Te theory that since it is an open system, breas milk (and it's contaminates, say if someone had an infectious disease like Hepatitis) could be harbored in the valves, etc. and passed on.

I bought my PIS from a very close friend who barely used it for four month, but it was a personal choice. I couldn't even begin to afford a new one.
Mine is the Lactina So it is for multi-use. So it should be fine correct?
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Well,

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Mine is the Lactina So it is for multi-use. So it should be fine correct?
Yours are just the horns, tubing, and piston, right? Those are the parts that are single user. You have to buy your own kit to rent the electric part of the lactina pump.
So, no, the pump you are selling is a single user pump. There are still plenty of people who would buy it though.
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Old 10-28-2004, 04:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Re: Well,

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Yours are just the horns, tubing, and piston, right? Those are the parts that are single user. You have to buy your own kit to rent the electric part of the lactina pump.
So, no, the pump you are selling is a single user pump. There are still plenty of people who would buy it though.
It says Manual (Not electric) I bought it new, used only a few times in 6 months. that was a couple years ago.
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Not kit. Whole system! Both pumps Manual Pumping kit included. Single or double pumping to save you time. Can be converted for use with the MiniElectric Breast pump (sold Separately).
I never used the tubing. Just one pump and the bottles to manually pump one breast at a time.
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Old 10-28-2004, 05:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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gosh now im worried cuz i dont know WHO had the p.i.s breast pump before me since i had bought it used at a local thrift store for a wonderful price and theres no way i could afford buying a new one .... i plan on bf'n on demand but wanted to have a bp available incase i had to be away, or had to go back to work ect

i bought all new tubing and horns ect all thats used still is the actual bag/machine so thats pretty much the most important part... i wiped down the case inside and out ... i need to pull it back outta the closet soon anyways .. now you got me kinda worried and wondering

what would be the signs of having a problem with it since its been used before... just getting a sick baby i suppose huh which isnt good ....

im sure if i have problems i could get assistance from a local place and rent a bp made for multiple users ....

thanks for a heads up didnt think too much about it i guess before
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yes - Medula's are single user pumps unless they are the big hospital grade ones and then you need to buy new horns/tubing and so on in between.

It's why I bought an Ameda Purely Yours instead as they have diaphrams that prevent milk from backing up into the pump - so they can be used by different users. I'm planning to hand mine down to my sister once she has kids.
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The one I have says Personal Accessory Kit for use with a Lactina rental breastpump. The number one choice of hospitals #67094
Contains Breastshields and inserts; valves; membranes; pistons; cylinders; vacuum regulator ring; rubber seals; pump connector; tubing with adapters; collection containers; lids; container stand; breastfeeding information guide; and instruction booklet. Autoclavable. Now is this or is this not intended for multi-use?
Now I know I am clean and have no Heb b or anything. Guess I will think about this.
again I didn't use the tubing or much. Only a breast shield and hand pump and bottle.
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Seems like...

what you have is a Personal kit for one user.

Those are the parts you are supposed to purchase for yourself when you use a mulit-user pump motor from a rental agency or the hospital.

That said, I see very little issue with boiling the horns and bottles to sanitation.

Tubing is another matter -- too tough to clean.
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Seems like...

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Tubing is another matter -- too tough to clean.
Good thing I didn't use the tubing then. LOL I couldn't afford to buy or rent a motor to dual pump. I only used like 3 pieces out of the entire box and it cost me over $50.00 to buy new at my doctors office. I didn;t even use them much unless I was out some place that gave me a hard time about breat feeding in public. UGH!
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The Ameda pumps are all safe. They're closed systems and very easy to clean.
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Tricia, what you have is definitly a one user kit that is made for a multi-use pump. IMO, this is unsafe to sell.

For everyone, in this article, the author states that "Second-hand, single user pumps cannot be legally resold in the United States." It also talks about that the original user can be liable if a subsequent user gets ill.

Second-hand brest pumps: Are they safe?

I guess that this is one of my soapbox issues because of my experience. I just don't think any amount of money is worth the risk. ( An Avent Isis can be purchased new for about $50 and I loved the one that I had). I just don't want anyone getting sick or their baby to get sick!!!!!

ETA: Here's another link...
http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/pumps.shtml
It states that the Ameda is not a closed system.

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