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Old 03-05-2007, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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anyone get tired of the whole, "I didn't have them

to be raised by someone else" thing?

Do you have phases where it is more annoying than others?

How do you deal with it?

99.9%of the time it doesn't bug me. I think it is annoying and condescending, but I accept it as par for the course. Right now, however, I find it more irritating (not hurtful, irritating) than usual.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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smugness is always in bad taste.

Can't say that I've actually had that said to me in person but I'm aware of it going around many places, many times. I guess I feel called to work and just don't pay those who criticize any attention or any energy.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh, I find it downright hurtful when people say that.

There is no way a person can utter that phrase without thinking they are superior in some way to women who work, no matter how many times they tack on, "that's just me though" or any other such addendum.

**** happens. I wanted to stay home too. We've got to eat somehow. Nobody else "raised" my kid. I am doing that, thank you very much.

How do I deal with it? I ignore those people and vent online
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm ashamed to admit I've uttered that phrase more than once. I never thought of how hurtful it might be.

It was typically in the context of, "You should hire an au pair" from my Mother.
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I don't know that is bothers me to read it online but if someone actually said it to me IRL I'm sure I'd have something not to nice to say about it.

I have never quite understood the WOHM/SAHM crap even when I *was* a SAHM. Nothing works for everyone. Ever.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Just reply, "well neither did I."
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< shameful look

I have said that too but not to another mother. Mostly I say it in response to someone in my family who asks when/if I am going back to work.
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Eh, like I said 99.9% of the time it doesn't bug me.

I've said it in the far past (like when I was 18-20), but I do know - at least for me - that I didn't get the manner in which work would affect my family and that the WOHM is STILL THE MAMA. Until I did it, I didn't realize that there are parts of WOH that can benefit the entire family (and not in the "so we can have more stuff" line).

Just every once in a while I get irritated (not hurt) by the condescention.

I'm so glad that we have this forum so that I can actually utter the above statement.

And, I too, don't get the whole criticism between the SAHM and the WOHMs. Shoot, how can we - as women - expect others to treat us with respect and diginity if we don't even treat each other that way? I do believe that if we each sat down with each other and really listened to each others' story, we could see that the choices that most of us make are very valid choices that have been thought out and are the best choices in each of our given lives.

So, thank you guys for letting me vent.
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Old 03-06-2007, 12:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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to be raised by someone else" thing?

Do you have phases where it is more annoying than others?

How do you deal with it?

99.9%of the time it doesn't bug me. I think it is annoying and condescending, but I accept it as par for the course. Right now, however, I find it more irritating (not hurtful, irritating) than usual.
Don't take this the wrong way, but why do people talk to you so rudely?! I am not implying that you are "asking for it" but I can't believe someone could say such judgemental things, simply because you work outside the home!

I'm so sorry!!
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Don't take this the wrong way, but why do people talk to you so rudely?! I am not implying that you are "asking for it" but I can't believe someone could say such judgemental things, simply because you work outside the home!

I'm so sorry!!
It wasn't said about me. It was a statement that I heard (and hear a lot in various forms), but it wasn't directed toward me.
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It wasn't said about me. It was a statement that I heard (and hear a lot in various forms), but it wasn't directed toward me.
I was gonna say!

Still rude, but not as rude as spoken to one's face.
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to be raised by someone else" thing?
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That statement is just ignorant. I am in firm belief that it takes a village. No, other people are not raising your children for you, they are helping you. Do moms that say this live in a vacuum where no one else takes their kids, ever? Or teaches them, or interacts with them? Sheesh.
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:53 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I've said it in regards to my sister who is not so happily married for 20yrs, and doesn't ever seem to have her kiddo with her. He's 4, in daycare from the time she opens until closing(for only $60/week, mind you!) spends the weekends with my other sister, and is in the church nursery 3 times a week while they attend services. They probably spend 12 waking hours with this child a week. It is so sad, but my sister and parents continue to enable her to leave him like that. So yeah, I do get frustrated with her, and when she badgers me about going back to work, I will say this.

Now, I don't ever say or think this about my friends, or anybody else, really. I think most Moms are just doing the best they can, and they really do have their child's best interest in mind. I'm not all that judgemental anymore, but I used to be when I was a new Mom.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I've been thinking about this thread in quiet times lately, and I realized what it is that prompted me to say that (or feel that way). Aside from the obvious conflict with my Mom and her belief that I should hire "help" - I think the main issue, for me, is that I don't have a tribe of people around me who are SAHMs IRL. Everyone I know (and particularly DH's colleague's wives) are WOHMs. I don't know if they resent me for staying home or if they really think it's something they couldn't do, but I get a lot of grief through the grapevine. Oddly, the husbands are more supportive and think it's great. Anyway. Just wanted to throw that out there, too. Not that a rationalization changes it at all.
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I've never had anyone say it to me, but I do think it's a terrible thing to say. I WOH'd for more years than I have SAH'd, and I don't think I take better care of my kids 'cause I'm home more.

But I put this on par with the ****e I read on my hsing support groups...every now and again, and daily at MDC, that 'children who go to school are in insitutions...and that why would *anyone* have children if they were just going to warehouse them in an institution for 6/8/10 hours a day?' I always wonder what planet these people are on.

Nobody in my real life hsing group would ever say such a thing to a fellow parent! (People spew all sorts of hate when they are hiding behind their little screens, things they would never consider saying to flesh and blood folk in front of them).

Most people in my rl hsing group have had plenty of experience with all sorts of educational configurations, including 'letting' an older child who wants to be institutionalized, be institutionalized.

I didn't even know this forum existed. Cool. Hope you don't mind a SAHM stopping by.
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