There is a huge scam going on with each of these sites. I saw the one for Ebay on tv last night, and certain enough, there was an email from the scam co. sent to me TODAY!

You will get a very official looking letter from Ebay. it will have a link to click on to Ebay to change some information. The site you will be taken to looks JUST like Ebay. It will ask for you
DL#
CC#
Mother's maiden name.

This is NOT from Ebay. This email has fooled a ton of people. Ebay will NEVER ask this info in an email. DO NOT reply, simply delete the email.

Paypal.com has a company set to scam from anyone who accidently types in paypal.com. Notice the second period at the end of paypal.com (Paypal.com.)

This site looks exactly like the paypal site. You will go there and it will NOT have your user name stored. It will say sign in here on the left just like paypal and ask for your password. When you type this info in, they will go to your real account and zap it of all funds. I had made this mistake and had to get a new account after my funds were zapped! Paypal will NOT be responsible. I have been going around with them for weeks now.

I just wanted to warn you all so you don't get robbed blindly. :(

YIKES! Especially about the paypal one. Since I NEVER make a typo (har!har!har!), I'm glad I don't keep much of a balance in paypal. I use paypal's echecks...delays things by a few days which can be annoying, but a little bit safer (if you can call anything "safe" on the internet! :rolleyes: ) Sorry you got taken, Jennifer. That just sucks -- especially so near to Christmas.

When you click log in it redirects to the real paypal site www.paypal.com It did remember my username and when I typed a fake password it said that wasn't my real password.

Originally posted by QTPatooties

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Paypal.com has a company set to scam from anyone who accidently types in paypal.com. Notice the second period at the end of paypal.com (Paypal.com.)

This site looks exactly like the paypal site. You will go there and it will NOT have your user name stored. It will say sign in here on the left just like paypal and ask for your password. When you type this info in, they will go to your real account and zap it of all funds. I had made this mistake and had to get a new account after my funds were zapped! Paypal will NOT be responsible. I have been going around with them for weeks now.

I just wanted to warn you all so you don't get robbed blindly. :(

Actually, I believe you were most likely a victim of a different paypal scam, as adding a dot after .com (.com.) for ANY domain will just redirect it to the actual domain without that last dot. What I mean, is: http://www.paypal.com. goes to http://www.paypal.com but your name is not "stored", because the cookie on your computer is set for http://www.paypal.com

Just try this:

http://www.amitymama.com/vb/index.php?s= (this one will not ask you to login - you have a cookie stored)

http://www.amitymama.com./vb/index.php?s= (note the extra dot; it still goes to amitymama forums, but will ask you to login, because cookie info is stored without that extra dot)

www.amitymama.com. still remembers me.

Originally posted by prairiemomagain
www.amitymama.com. still remembers me.

If you go first to www.amitymama.com. and then navigate from THERE to the forums,it will remember - as the links are to www.amitymama.com, without the extra dot (that is, from www.amitymama.com. links go to http://www.amitymama.com/vb/index.php?s= , so only when using the 2nd link I provided, it will not remember you). Do I even make sense? :)

Anyway, the point is - http://www.paypal.com. is a legitimate paypal's site, as is http://www.amitymama.com. , http://www.labelswithlove.com. , and any other domain with an extra dot.

There is a scam with pp that I heard of. I think it looked almost identical but http instead of https (s for secure) and they wanted you to resend #s and password or something like that. Ugh.

:rolleyes: Silly me!

Originally posted by Candace
There is a scam with pp that I heard of. I think it looked almost identical but http instead of https (s for secure) and they wanted you to resend #s and password or something like that. Ugh.

http and https is still the same site. There was a recent scam where in the e-mail the link seemed as leading to real paypal's site, but actually was going elsewhere (ex: http://www.paypal.com (http://www.amitymama.com) <-- click on it, and the other site looked exactly like paypal). People who didn't check the url in the browser were the victims of it.

Ah! Sorry for the disinformation. The mama who told me about it said she noticed there was no s and that's what made her take notice, but maybe she mentioned the bad url. I don't remember now.

URGENT: PayPal System Problems

Dear PayPal User,

Today we had some trouble with one of our computer systems. While the trouble appears to be minor, we are not taking any chances. We decided to take the troubled system offline and replace it with a new system. Unfortunately this caused us to lose some member data. Please follow the link below and log into your account to make sure your information is not affected. Account balances have not been affected.

Because of the inconvenience this causes we are giving all users that repair their missing data their next two incoming transfers for free! You will pay no fees for your next two incoming transfers*.


LINK was here in the email~~~I deleted the link so no one would be tempted, but, this is a copy of the email I got.........


Thank you for using PayPal!

* - If fees would normally apply, you will not pay anything for the next two incoming transfers you receive.

PayPal Security

PROTECT YOUR PASSWORD
NEVER give your password to anyone and ONLY log in at PayPal's website. If anyone asks for your password, please follow the Security Tips instructions on the PayPal website.

Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the "Help" link in the footer of any page.

:0

Here is the who-is on the domain you're actually clicking over to, for those of you who are interested:
Organization:
Confinity, Inc (PAYPAL2-DOM)
PayPal PayPal, Inc.
1840 Embarcadero Rd.
Palo Alto, CA 94303
US
Phone: 650.251.1100
Fax..: 650.251.1101
Email: hostmaster@PAYPAL.COM

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: PAYPALSYS.COM

Created on..............: Tue, Sep 10, 2002
Expires on..............: Fri, Sep 10, 2004
Record last updated on..: Thu, Sep 12, 2002

Administrative Contact:
Confinity, Inc (PAYPAL2-DOM)
PayPal PayPal, Inc.
1840 Embarcadero Rd.
Palo Alto, CA 94303
US
Phone: 650.251.1100
Fax..: 650.251.1101
Email: hostmaster@PAYPAL.COM

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.126.41
NS2.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.77.42
DNS1.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.126.11

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

Notice anything? The scammer wants you to believe it is really Paypal. The name servers give it away. Paypal does not use Earthlink.net.

:eek:!!

But why does it know my username already??

And, I am not certain, JUST please trust me on this one. I am certain I was one of the dummies who thought it was real, but, not the only........

I will trust you.

When I opened it it showed my email addy in the login just like the real one.

Ack!

ooh! I just typed in the real one to my browser and it's different. There is stuff that wasn't on that other site! Boy that other one looks real!

And, you would have thought i'd known better, but, I thought the same thing...it knew my email addy. However, I was told, it somehow gets your email addy you are on and adds it to the window, hence, it does not really know yout user name, just your email addy. For example, I have 7 AOL account names I can use. So, had I signed on under the one I use now, instead of what I used then, it would have shown that email addy as my user name. My best friends DH is a computer guru and tried to explain it to me. So, had I logged on under (just examples) Mom@aol.com, it would have shown that as my user name instead of dad@aol.com. Does that make sense? I also just deleted the link so no one would be tempted and get scammed to, but, if you ever get an email like that one, please be smarter than me.........

Originally posted by QTPatooties

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Paypal.com has a company set to scam from anyone who accidently types in paypal.com. Notice the second period at the end of paypal.com (Paypal.com.)



Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: PAYPALSYS.COM


As I've been saying ALL along, you were scammed by PAYPALSYS.com, NOT by paypal.com. , as paypal.com. is the real paypal's site. Good that you are trying to alert others, but it would be better to advice to check the URL on top in the browser - and it WOULD say that you are in paypalsys.com .

Once again, for everyone: paypal.com. , amitymama.com. , ebay.com. , etc just forward to REAL sites . PAYPALSYS.COM is clearly NOT paypal's URL :)


Last effort on my part to educate...


P.S. paypalsys.com has been taken offline already... :) watch out for other scams.

hmmm

the url did not take me to paypalsys.com. the url in the browser said paypal.com/abunchofotherstuffican'tremember

and it looked just like a paypal page UNTIL I typed paypal.com in and saw the current page with its little colour ads and whatever

how can that be?

looking at the url IN THE BROWSER WINDOW after clicking her link, I would not have been able to tell I wasn't at paypal.:( I looked to see if there was anything to tip me off, but I found nothing.

I don't have much to add EXCEPT

NEVER follow links through e-mails to Pay Pal, ebay or anything similar. It is better to go directly to the site and go where you need to go, lest you risk it.

I *do* always sign in to httpS://www.paypal.com b/c that is what they say to do so you are on the secure server. Just going by what they say, whether it's true or not, I dunno. LOL

http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/1470291 (as a bunch of other sites report, too)

Basically, as I already said: in that particular scam, the URL in html-formatted e-mail looks like it links to https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr/?cmd=_login-run, in reality the link is to http://www.paypalsys.com/cgibin/webscr/?cmd=_login-run

Unless there's a new scam going around, that is all there is to it (the paypalsys.com site is down now, btw). This is not a new scam, since Jennifer says she's fighting with paypal about this for weeks.

well, when I clicked on her link (before she removed it) the url after I got to the page said paypal.com/abunchofothergarbage

I didn't think that was possible. Unless there was a space in there that I missed or something like that?? The reason I find it so creepy is that after going there and looking at the url in my browser it was NOT paypalsys.com, just paypal.com. Ack. But it WAS different that the reg Paypal page when I checked that. Not much, though.

Or maybe I just totally missed a letter, but I really thought it only said paypal.com/etc because I was specifically looking for that. :(

edit

I take it back - I used your link Renata and it was the exact same thing you gave - the login page instead of the home page. So her link was legit. That's weird.

Originally posted by Candace
well, when I clicked on her link (before she removed it) the url after I got to the page said paypal.com/abunchofothergarbage

I didn't think that was possible. Unless there was a space in there that I missed or something like that?? The reason I find it so creepy is that after going there and looking at the url in my browser it was NOT paypalsys.com, just paypal.com. Ack. But it WAS different that the reg Paypal page when I checked that. Not much, though.

Or maybe I just totally missed a letter, but I really thought it only said paypal.com/etc because I was specifically looking for that. :(

edit

I take it back - I used your link Renata and it was the exact same thing you gave - the login page instead of the home page. So her link was legit. That's weird.

The way it happened, Candace, is that in that scam e-mail they used html formatting to hide the real link it was sending victims to. The formatted URL was https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr/?cmd=_login-run , the "hidden" URL was http://www.paypalsys.com/cgibin/webscr/?cmd=_login-run (that's where the victims were sent after clicking on the formatted URL).

Since Jennifer copied and pasted the e-mail in plain-text format (NOT in html formatting), the "hidden" URL got lost, and you just got the legitimate Paypal link. Thus the confusion.

Once again, to clear this up for all confused: Jennifer was a victim of PAYPALSYS.COM scam. If you saw the scam URL before she edited the message, you saw the legitimate Paypal link, as the "hidden" URL (where you really were linked to in e-mail) was lost by copying & pasting.

And, once again: PAYPAL.COM. is a REAL Paypal's site. See all my postings above.

--Renata

Oooohhhhhh!

THANK YOU! I was soooooo confused! Whew. OK so now I feel better about checking the browser and knowing that fakes will be exposed. Sorry to be so thick, LOL! :p