View Full Version : Is it normal in US Schools....
Woodwoman
01-23-2009, 09:25 AM
.....that almost every adult working there believes he/she has the right to scream at your kids? Starting with the cleaning lady, who freaks out in the cafeteria over a spilled out juice, to the busdriver which freaks out several times, because a child got up from the seat, all the way to the teacher who screams whole day long and when approached by the parent, tells you straight away, that she's had a bad day. ( I think the Department of Workforce Services has job openings for these people.)I reported yesterday a busdriver, because of her temper outbursts to the supervisor, which to my amazement, told me, that she is instructing. I asked him, if she had had a career as a drill seargant previously. He didn't find it any funny, but i was not trying to make a joke anyways. Because after my daughter felt out of the bus from shock and crying, i was not in the mood for jokes. My kids were homeschooled, but asked, if they could attend school. After the first day, my older daughter told me, that school was o.k., but why they always scream. Her teacher told them, that when she was young, the children were slammed against the wall with the head, when they were unruly. How am I supposed to understand that? Is she just telling about her own schooltime or is she gloryfying that?
Alice Miller has a very interesting Site on the Web set up, as much as i read, screaming and threatening ( or taking things away as punishment, like recess) is considered child abuse. Does this count only for the parents, or is it, that abusive behaviour is permitted with the Yes and Amen of the school district?
Amphitrite
01-23-2009, 09:49 AM
Um, no, that is not normal behavior - I'd be looking for a different school or district if at all possible. That's scary people right there :hug:
Sunflower_Momma
01-23-2009, 09:56 AM
Welcome. Clearly can see your perspective and opinion, but why are you posting in the "traditional learning" forum.
By the way: the teachers, staff, and personel at our public school don't yell. I've never heard any adult interact with any child in any manner other than with respect - even when redirecting.
Not every public schooling situation is inferior to homeschooling.
marjen
01-23-2009, 10:20 AM
Yeah, time to shop for a new school. All schools are NOT equal.
The teachers in our school system aren't like that either. That sounds awful.
freedomlover
01-24-2009, 12:09 PM
I would say that "yup, it is normal".
I am a teacher and my biggest pet peeve is how professional educators and staff talk to children. They should model kindness.
My own ds (8) has a problem at his school of looking a heck of a lot like another boy (who is a rascal) and being talked to as though he is that boy. They are in the same grade, often in similar clothes (who could imagine this happening but it does) and it is a problem for my poor, dear, well behaved, sensitive child!
Katie
01-24-2009, 12:42 PM
I guess we have experienced some incidents of "flipping out." i don't know that it's been an over all theme tho and they were relatively isolated and tame in comparison. There are a couple of teachers that my hs and middle-school children just don't expect a lot from.
The bus driver last year always had the kids stepping lightly. In her defense, she didn't have another adult on a 1st through 5th grade bus. She'd just shout out children's names to come and sit at the front of the bus if it'd get unruly...sometimes she hit, sometimes a miss. The other alternative was assigned seating and the kids were willing to take the occasional front-seat-hit for their friends. I guess the bus was a lot of fun last year, middle school dd still speaks affectionately of it. I think her driver's crazy had a lot to do with that affection. lol.
If it was that bad, I'd probably be looking for an alternative. When my children re-entered the ps system, I found all of their teachers very respectful and accommodating.
Welcome. Clearly can see your perspective and opinion, but why are you posting in the "traditional learning" forum.
what other forum should this go in?
IBelieveInFae
01-24-2009, 03:38 PM
My experience is that it's normal. It was typical behavior in school for me as a child and teen. When Annabelle was in public school it would have been unusual but expectable at an elementary school level.
OnTheBrink
01-24-2009, 05:26 PM
Woah! I've never heard of anything like that! I spend LOTS of time at my kids' school (at least 6 hours a week) and I have never witnessed anything even close to what you describe.
freedomlover
01-24-2009, 05:42 PM
There is often a sort of stern "You should know better" tone to many teachers and staffers who don't actually scream.
A belittling of a young spirit that doesn't need to occur.
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