I'm in a pissy mood today :p

So what do you think about high fabric prices here? You know like when someone charges "ebay" prices (whatever that is) for HTF fabric.

IMO if you want "ebay" prices - go to the trouble and risk of selling on ebay. If you want to sell fabric as a community member - then act like a "community" and sell at fair prices.

OK like I said I am in a pissy mood today.

Well I am in a fairly pissy moood today too, but this doesn't really bother me. In my opinion, people have the right to set their price at whatever they want and the rest of us have the choice to buy it or not. I also don't really care when someone buys something really cheap and marks it up to sell it here. It is really a hassle checking postage, getting $$, PM'ing everyone, going to the PO (or even typing in addresses and printing postage) etc. And I think it is totally fair for someone to make some money doing that.

So I see your pissy mood and raise you! :p :bow:

I agree that people can make money - but I think prices should be fair.

on the occasional pissy day i grumble to myself about high prices here. but if it is not my fs post i usually don't let it bug me. i have the problem of undervaluing my stuff fs because i am worried someone will think my prices are too high. also i almost always post stuff PPD and loose money because of it but keep the prices lower because it looks like i am charging too much with the PPD.

:hug:

I would hope that if someone was interested in a fabric I had listed and they thought the price was too high, they would ask me if I could come down a bit on the price. I usually list it for what I paid. I'll admit that I did recently go through my stash and pull out the PRR and Munki that I knew would go for a higher price. I had made a purchase that I knew dh was going to balk at, so I wanted to raise a quick 'buffer' stash to ease his mind. I'll admit I never like Ebaying stuff. I always feel that here, if a mama is unhappy with what she got, we can work it out on a personal level rather than the uncomfortable working with a stranger thing.

SO, while I do pass up alot of fabric listed here because I can't or won't pay the price that is being asked....I don't really fault (most of) the mama's who list it. Most of us really don't want to part with any of our fabrics (I think) but know it is what can get us some money fast.

:hug: again, because I was in a pissy mood yesterday and they just SUCK! hahahah Hope you are feeling better soon!

I'm kind of on the fence on it. I can see both sides to this. I think the people who do that are avoiding ebay fees. OTOH, I can understand people wanting to get the best price, to earn money for their family, and not pay corporate Ebay and when they offer it here at one price, then there is no chance you'd be out bid.
Also, if the price is too much we have the choice to not be a taker and pass. If enough people do that, then the price will go down or it'll go to ebay.
Personally I can't let myself pay the high prices for fabric, no matter how much I love a print. I rarely pay over $5 a yard for a knit and wouldn't ever pay $8... just doesn't make it worth the cost of sewing the item since I'm sewing for the kids mostly.

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I completely agree with you Allison. Not that you can't charge a "fair" price, but usually the "ebay" prices are at the high end of ebay. Yes, I have had some fabric sell well there and and some that simply does not. You never know what the price will be and to charge "ebay" prices is not really valid.

On the other hand, everyone has the right not to buy something here if the prices are too high. But ebay, you also have fees and time to take into account.

But you know what REALLY bothers me?? When you sell a piece of fabric to someone (not necessarily here, I sell fabric in other places too) that is kind of hard to get ahold of and then they turn around, triple the price and re-sell it within a week or two and brag about it. I try and price my fabric here like I would sell to a IRL friend. Fair, but I don't mark it up.

Go ahead, I'm kind of in a nasty mood today too.

I pretty much try to sell at a fair price here, sometimes I even sell fabric here at my cost. If I want big $$ I put it on ebay. I try to balance it out like with the baby nay and sell most here at a small profit and then put a few yards up on ebay for a bigger profit.

There have been times that people have contacted me to buy something they know I have at a higher price. Still, a little less then ebay but they really want it and know they might not have a chance if I put it on ebay. Also there are times when I've offered to pay $20 on the board for a yard of htf and someone took me up on it. I honestly thought that was more fair then the people who wanted really high trade values.

I don't really care though how much other people ask for their fabric. I've bought $20 a yard munki sock monkey knit here on the board. It probably would have went for more on ebay. I guess I'm kind of torn. What's considered a fair price? If you paid $5 for a yard of fabric a couple years ago in a co-op and it's been selling on ebay for $30 a yard and you offer it on the board for $20 a yard is that a fair price? You're still making a big profit but also a community member is getting a chance to buy it at a below market price.

I agree Alison. I personally think to keep and foster the feeling of community here (which I really think we all need to really help feed right now w/so many people feeling hurt and left out of things) if your going to charge significantly more than you paid for it, you should just ebay it. This is just my opinion and it doesn't make me mad when I see someone up the price alot but I just think it goes against what I remember when I first started lurking on this board 2 yrs ago.

I remember awhile ago a specific member being jumped all over for this a year or so ago, here and at another board, and it just amazes me that it's now become the norm.

I don't know, I feel like I shouldn't be replying to this thread because I'm so afraid I'll hurt someone's feelings and it seems like we've had way too much of that recently on a board that I really love inspite of it's problems. I know I said on md that I don't feel like many of you "know" me but I really feel like I "know" so many of you and you've become my friends and I hate for my friends to be hurt :hug:

Dang, I can make anything about "me" :lol:

But you know what REALLY bothers me?? When you sell a piece of fabric to someone (not necessarily here, I sell fabric in other places too) that is kind of hard to get ahold of and then they turn around, triple the price and re-sell it within a week or two and brag about it. I try and price my fabric here like I would sell to a IRL friend. Fair, but I don't mark it up.

This kind of pisses me off too when it's obvious that someone is buying from you at a low price just to turn around and ebay it. I've worried someone may have thought that about me too though. There have been a couple times that I've bought too much here or something I thought I'd like from the pictures and didn't and put it on ebay (at a low starting price) and it's gone for much more then I paid. I DID NOT buy it with the intention of ebaying but it ended up in my "to sell" pile for whatever reason. I know that I'm not being greedy or trying to make money off people's kindness here because half the time when I buy something I don't like I just give it away, but people don't see that. They only see what happens here on the board or on ebay...unless you come to a party at my house, then you leave with lots of free fabric LOL.

I am of the good karma school when it comes to fabric sales. If you find it for a screaming deal, pass on the savings to the community. If you want to make money on it, ebay it to strangers. I guess I've been doing co ops for so long (5 yrs now) that I am used to just charging cost plus shipping to me LOL.

SIZE=1]unless you come to a party at my house, then you leave with lots of free fabric LOL.[/SIZE]

Okay, I'm totally coming to visit you! How's tomorrow? I can be on a plane tonight. ;) Maybe Suzanne will let me come and pick her blueberries while I'm there...

Well I am in a fairly pissy moood today too, but this doesn't really bother me. In my opinion, people have the right to set their price at whatever they want and the rest of us have the choice to buy it or not.

:ditto: :)

Okay, I'm totally coming to visit you! How's tomorrow? I can be on a plane tonight. ;) Maybe Suzanne will let me come and pick her blueberries while I'm there...

LOL I was thinking the same thing! :) When is good for you, Kori? ;)

Well...you know what they say...that when woman live or hang around together that they start cycling together. Is that it ladies?? :p

That said, if prices are too high, I don't buy it, but people have the right to sell for whatever they wish, maybe they paid that much for it originally with shipping? Like what if I bought a yard of Munki fabric from Sewzanne's for $10 and paid $4 for shipping, and then saw that another Momma would *really* like this fabric, but Suzanne isn't carrying it anymore and though I like it, I wouldn't mind parting with it so I sell it for $14 for that one yard to just recoup my cost. I see that as fair.

But I also worry about people buying from me and reselling on eBay. I check that every now and then because I sold all that Baby Nay for $4.50/yd and some of those prints are going for much more now, and I guess I get suspicious.

I also like to play: "what goes around, comes around". I think I did this with Alison (warneral). She wanted something of mine that I knew I could sell for more then she wanted to pay, but I sold it for less because she had sold me something recently, that she too could have gotten more for. In that instance I knew that, in all the community spirit, one good turn deserves another.

Many times I will just eBay and not sell here, because I know people here expect low prices and at this second in my life I need the $$ to survive, so I generally eBay first those HTF prints.

And *then* what about when you do offer fabric for less expensive and it is the same people buying it all the time because they are on the forum all the time and those on dial up always seem to miss the good deals? (not that it effects me, because we have cable). I feel for those Mommas.

I don't even know why I am posting here except that I am avoiding packing, which I have to do, since moving is only 1+ weeks away. :eek: Can we say procrastination, oh, and that and, yes, I am readying to cycle too. :D

Like the PP said, I think it doesn't foster the sense of community we have here - it makes me feel more like we're a "market" for fabric sellers (which we obviously are, I know! LOL) and less of a "community" of mamas who try to help each other. That said, we still have a choice to purchase or not a piece of fabric at a given price. There are some mamas whose FS post I don't even open anymore because I know their prices are always too high.

Anyway, all this to say that I doesn't piss me off but I don't think this board is the most appropriate place to try and be greedy. It's not wrong, just odd IMO.

Maybe Suzanne will let me come and pick her blueberries while I'm there...

They're all gone and I didn't even get one! :wah: ;)

Hey Kori! When is the next party at your house?? :D I left with some great stuff last time! Eli was just wearing his motorcycle underwear last night. :)

I don't really care what people sell their fabric for here. If it's too much $ for me, I don't buy it. On the other hand, if they list something htf here that I want, I don't have to bid against anyone like I would on ebay, so I think that makes it easier. With as many mamas as post here, there is no way for everyone to be happy all the time.

I don't really care what people sell their fabric for here. If it's too much $ for me, I don't buy it. On the other hand, if they list something htf here that I want, I don't have to bid against anyone like I would on ebay, so I think that makes it easier. With as many mamas as post here, there is no way for everyone to be happy all the time.

:ditto: i think the sense of community here has long been overshadowed by the greed and consumerism that has abounded lately...and lest anyone thinks i'm pointing fingers, i'm pointing one at me too! :rolleyes: i'm guilty of wanting more more more fabric and also selling for higher prices than i paid...but like others have said as well, it's my fabric to do with as i wish...someone wants to pay the price i ask, what's it to *general you*? most times when i clean out my stash and sell HTF fabrics at higher prices, it's b/c we're tight that month...granted, i've only sold one fabric that i know of for considerably more than i paid for it. i also won't pay the higher prices unless it's something i've GOT to have...those nay cowboys, i made an exception for ;) i think i'm ready to get af back anytime too tho (11.5mos af free!!!)...

this doesn't really bother me. In my opinion, people have the right to set their price at whatever they want and the rest of us have the choice to buy it or not. I also don't really care when someone buys something really cheap and marks it up to sell it here. It is really a hassle checking postage, getting $$, PM'ing everyone, going to the PO (or even typing in addresses and printing postage) etc.

:ditto:

Although, I'll admit that I loved buying fabric that went high on ebay and selling it here for about cost + expenses. And passing on my great deal to the board. I enjoy shareing the love.

Well...you know what they say...that when woman live or hang around together that they start cycling together. Is that it ladies??
Umm Hum. PMS here.

i think the sense of community here has long been overshadowed by the greed and consumerism that has abounded lately...and lest anyone thinks i'm pointing fingers, i'm pointing one at me too!

I think this is very true and I'm totally guilty of it too.

I'm not too bothered by people asking higher prices for HTF fabrics. If the price is too high then I'm not going to buy it. I do get a little annoyed by people who never post except when they are trying to sell something.

I'm prob. going to regret this. but.. what irks me is when someone find's a great deal on fabric, offer's it to the community, then claims they are having 'health problems'/ 'health scare' so they can not get it for anyone anymore.. & then they immediately begin selling the fabric on Ebay. & my excuse is I too am in a pissy mood today ;) but.. to answer the op's ? .. prices one set's for their fabric really doesn't faze me.. if it's too much for me, I move on.. LOL

It doesn't bother me at all, but then I've been guilty of doing that so it better not bother me, lol. ;) I agree with the pp's that said people have a right to sell for what they want and everyone else has the right to pass it up or to buy it.

well, i'm not in a pissy mood and not pms'ing. woo hoo! :) but, a related thing that really irks me regarding fabric selling/buying on this board is when someone finds or offers something htf for a great price (ie, not marking up but doing it because it's a nice and fun thing to do for the community) and then one mama swoops in and buys tons of yardage so no one else can get it.

I go back and forth. I agree about getting the best price with your fabric but sometimes its a little bit :eyes: to see some of the prices that people come up with. Especially for some "HTF" fabrics that I'd never seen go for a price remotely like that. And I agree with the PP about seeing a few people "swoop down" and grab tons of yardage and then no one else has a chance. :eyes: But that's life I guess...

What irritates me is when people sell there fabric for the high dollar amnt but expect everyone else to sell them there fabric for low prices or co-op prices.

I can agree with just about everyone here. I *do* buy higher priced fabrics when I want something really bad. However, I don't think I would ever sell my fabric for that price. I would rather trade it for other fabrics that I'm ISO. I often sell for what I paid for it. I've only ebayed fabric once - 3 yds of PRR fairies cord...but I bought that originally from Pam and I only ebayed it because nobody wanted to buy it here for the $4.50/yd that I was offering.

I do think people should price however much they want to...but I am wary of selling off fabric that I really, really love. I've sold lots of PRR for $4.50/yd to see it ebayed later...which I think kind of sucks. I would rather that person sell it back to me, lol!

eh, It dones't bother me at all. I have been guilty of buying ebay priced PRR dandelions from Jenn (gloriel) I had to have it and I was THRILLED that she offered tt here before posting it at ebay. I was so stinking happy to be at the right place at the right time, that never happens to me. :monkeydan

I completely agree with you Allison. Not that you can't charge a "fair" price, but usually the "ebay" prices are at the high end of ebay. Yes, I have had some fabric sell well there and and some that simply does not. You never know what the price will be and to charge "ebay" prices is not really valid.

On the other hand, everyone has the right not to buy something here if the prices are too high. But ebay, you also have fees and time to take into account.

But you know what REALLY bothers me?? When you sell a piece of fabric to someone (not necessarily here, I sell fabric in other places too) that is kind of hard to get ahold of and then they turn around, triple the price and re-sell it within a week or two and brag about it. I try and price my fabric here like I would sell to a IRL friend. Fair, but I don't mark it up.

Go ahead, I'm kind of in a nasty mood today too.

ITA

I also agree that it just reflects the consumerism that we have been caught up in. I know that I am certainly guilty of creating that culture here too. But I do miss when we were a little more giving as a community :)

:ditto: i think the sense of community here has long been overshadowed by the greed and consumerism that has abounded lately... ..

I haven't been around much so I didn't realize this had been going on. :(

I do know that Allison/Araspants, Tara, and Alison/Warneral have (at least in the past) been excellent examples of how community members should share.

Last year Alison/Warneral shared a small piece of a floral PRR that we couldn't get anywhere and I was desperately wanting a little bit of.

I hope this post is proactive and things get back to the way they used to be. :)

to comment ont he loss of community I think it's not so much to do with "greediness" as it is with the simple fact thsi board is just not set up to accomodate everything we have going on yk? THe mebership on our little sewing board is not little! THat is a wonderful fatastic thing but there just isn't room here for 40 poster's S&S, questions, OT and FS threads. Everyting gets pushed off the front page too quickly and people feel like they are being ignored. I hate that. I really dnon't think it's a matter of being ignore as much as it's just moving to fast.

I have really been giving a lot of thought to this lately. I use to think it was just bcaue of the buying and next big fabric buy. I really don't think that is it. I think we have simply physically, outgrown this little board.