ok so ya i got a really good deal on a COUCH slipcover ( maybe a couple pounds weight yes? ) .... it didnt list a shipping price and there wasnt much time left when i bidded....but she lives in VA same state as me and im thinking give or take $7.00 or maybe a lil higher IF she only sends priority

so after i request my total and she just emailed me

SHES ASKING $20.00!!! for shipping and handling!!!!

i have never had a feeling of gosh thats soooooooooooooo not fair? lol

this would be slightly different if the bid on the actual auction itself was a bit higher ..but this is crazy!!

this is crazy i think i said that.... what are your thoughts??? i told mike and he thinks its nutz and said have her ship it to his parents ( which live like 30mins if that away from her, unlike our 4hrs would make adifference LOL )

gonna sit here rolling my eyes for a lil bit longer :rolleyes:

gosh

Didn't she tsate that cost in her auction?

I'd say it's possible it will cost that much. The sofa slipcovers I've had have been quite heavy and I think they would have cost close to that.
If you're in the same state, she may also be adding in sales tax---depending on whether she's a private seller or not. Also, I haven't found that in state shipping is all that much cheaper.
You could email her and ask her if that is the actual shipping charge for first class...

no she didnt state any shipping cost in her auction there was " check description ect " but that was very brief with a pic and nothing else

usually i contact to make sure ect before

i know ive dealt with things being higher in cost for instate ... but i also was going by surefit shipping ( since this is a surefit ) and they charge $8.00 for couch $7.00 for loveseat so figuring around that heck id be ok with $10 .. but $20 seems crazy

im sending her an email shortly asking about shipping

in the confirm paypal type total form .. she has it written as :
standard flat rate shipping service $20.00

The seller ID? I may know her :) Long story...

Was it a pottery barn slip?

edited to add...she may have padded the s/h to cover her ebay/paypal fees. ebay allows that so long as you don't say "if you pay with paypal you need to add x.xx", if you add it as "handling" in the shipping fee, it's considered ok.

Combined ebay/paypal fees run about 10% of the sale price...just a thought?

if your inlaws live nearby, maybe you could arrange for pick-up?

i've learned my lesson about bidding on items without shipping costs posted... it's like a red flag goes up when they don't post it in the auction!

you're right! it's crazy!

good luck mama... hope the slip cover makes it worthwhile! *wink*

i dont want to burden my inlaws with trying to track a sale down i made lol ... id do it myself or attempt to get seller to make a pick up date ect if we were planning on going down to visit sometime soon but mike has to work this coming sat and probably the following so its a no go for awhile .... but ne ways

i took the slipcover i have off my sofa and boxed it up and weighed it put in her info and mine and it weighed at 6lb 9oz i even rounded all the way up to 8lbs and it still was only coming in at $7.35 for priority mail ... so thats nearly $13.00 of "padding"


i can see asking a handling fee of $3.00 even to cover listing fees ect ... but $13.00?

You should ask her how much shipping is without a 14K gold inlaid box.:joker:

You should ask her how much shipping is without a 14K gold inlaid box.

*AHHHAAAAHHHHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHAAAA*

I bought a sea shell on ebay and the shipping was $20. I bit the bullet and just paid it. Darn thing arrived in a used box stuffed with old newspapers and everything smelled.

If I pay $20 to be shipped a stupid 8" sea shell weighing less then 2 lbs it better be wrapped in a brand new box with a typed lable and be protected with bubble wrap made with oxygen from the cleanest city on the planet.

Sorry this happened to you

julie

NO way would it cost $20. I just shipped a paint ball gun, with CO2 tank, hopper and all the accessories across the U.S. for $14. The box weighed 14 lbs.

I hate when sellers do that crap. I will not even consider bidding on an auction when the shipping is not listed. It's a huge red flag. If the shipping isn't listed then I email the seller and then hang on to their reply so I can remind them of their shipping quote if I win the item.

I have also made it a point to let a few sellers know that I would have bid on their auction and paid a lot more than the item went for if they weren't trying to screw buyers out of money with their outrageous shipping charges. It's becoming more and more common. I will actually bid more on an item than I intended to if the seller has listed a very fair and reasonable shipping quote.

I would def. email her and let her know that you are extremely disappointed with her shipping quote.

Originally posted by freespiritmom
NO way would it cost $20. I just shipped a paint ball gun, with CO2 tank, hopper and all the accessories across the U.S. for $14. The box weighed 14 lbs.

I hate when sellers do that crap. I will not even consider bidding on an auction when the shipping is not listed. It's a huge red flag. If the shipping isn't listed then I email the seller and then hang on to their reply so I can remind them of their shipping quote if I win the item.

I have also made it a point to let a few sellers know that I would have bid on their auction and paid a lot more than the item went for if they weren't trying to screw buyers out of money with their outrageous shipping charges. It's becoming more and more common. I will actually bid more on an item than I intended to if the seller has listed a very fair and reasonable shipping quote.

I would def. email her and let her know that you are extremely disappointed with her shipping quote.

It annoys me too, but something I learned about this is that ebay is kind of perpetuating this high shipping crap. My mom is ebay obsessed :rolleyes: , she goes to the seminars here locally and she goes to the national conventions, lol. Anyway, one thing that one of the seminars was really pushing she told me about was to tack on a higher shipping fee to encompass your fees, your pkging supplies, your gas for going to mail it and your time.

I shipped a carseat once, about as far as you are talking, Cost me less than $8.

Originally posted by freespiritmom
I have also made it a point to let a few sellers know that I would have bid on their auction and paid a lot more than the item went for if they weren't trying to screw buyers out of money with their outrageous shipping charges. It's becoming more and more common. I will actually bid more on an item than I intended to if the seller has listed a very fair and reasonable shipping quote. I've never actually told a seller as much myself, but I agree with you wholeheartedly. The only way to combat this ridiculous phenomenon is for buyers to not support it. Every little one of us who rebels will make a difference ;)

I think sellers should price their products for enough to start with to cover their fees, etc. When I go to the grocery store, I don't get up to the register and get a huge handling fee tacked onto my purchase to cover the cost to the store of paying the cashier and manager's fuel to get to work, etc.! Silly!

I'm just curious if you emailed her and asked why shipping was so high and what she said. I would be pretty annoyed with being asked to pay that much extra for "handling."

yep i emailed her last night asking for explanation for why she wanted $20.00 for shipping cuz i found it very hard to believe it would cost that much

and after my own research ( taking my slip cover off thats one of the heavier weights and weighing it ... and checking from her zip to mine and seeing JUST how much it really would cost ) im ready and aimed with ammo LOL

i havent heard from her yet so im just sitting here wondering how shes going to defend her handling fee of nearly $13.00!

ill update of course when i hear from her lol ;o)

thanks mamas!!

My DH just sold a set of "headers" for a car motor. The package was 32.5 pounds and large. It only cost $12.18 to ship. (It was shipped using Fedex and within the same state as I am.)

The bottom line is.....NEVER bid on anything without asking how much they are charging for S&H. I hate that she is over charging you for shipping.

maybe i'm the only one who thinks it's the *buyers* responsibility to inquire on unlisted shipping charges before bidding and entering into a binding contract...i dunno :confused:

imo, if you don't pay the shipping she asks, you're opening yourself up to negative feedback. sure, it's crazy to charge $13 to HANDLE a package in preparation for shipping, but ebay clearly states that not all shipping and handling fees are to be openly listed in the contents of the auctions, so it's up to the buyer to either KNOW AHEAD OF BIDDING, or TAKE A CHANCE.

that $13 difference might end up costing you a lot more in the long run, especially if you ever plan on selling or buying on ebay again.

just mo.

im not posting to get backlashed ... and i fully understand feedback ect.... ive worked very hard to retain my 100% feedback of 248 shown number but 320 all positive!!

and i usually always ask if not listed or just dont bid ...but come on .. do you expect that someones going to ask you to pay $20.00 for a couch slipcover to send it to you?? heck if i did ... i thought at most $10.00 cuz surefit themselves only charges $8.00 for the sofa size, $7.00 for loveseat ....

ne ways ...

I agree, I never bid on anything without at least an estimate on the shipping. But you did, so other than complaining, there's not much you can do, except bite the bullet and pay up. Find out who the shipper is, the weight and the zip code, figure out how much it is, and then tell everyone if you've been overcharged in your feedback(you may want to give positive though).


And if I see someone selling something for $.99 and shipping $19.95, then I report them to ebay. Every time. I hate that crap.

Buyer beware, remember to read the fine print and lack thereof.

$20 is outrageous but I have to agree with Kas that it is the buyers responsiblity to ask.

I think that Ebay does have something in their R+R about unreasonable charges and I am pretty sure that qualifies as an Unreasonable charge. You could report it to Ebay and let them know and maybe the seller will either come down on it or let you out of the auction all together.

Would you mind posting a link to the auction? Are all her other auctions that high shipping as well?

i guess if im coming across as complaining im not meaning to ... and i know im responsible for paying ect but i found it extremely crazy for her to be asking such a deal and one reason for starting this post was to see if others have had same experiences ect .. and ive NEVER been hit with a suprise like this before

and ive never had a problem like this before ... i may bid, win ect from time to time on ebay but im not as knowledgeable as some of you mamas on here ... isnt that what this place is for, help eachother, share ideas, ect ug i feel like sometimes when i post i get backlashed .... oh well

i never once said before i wouldnt pay!

and honestly i got a GREAT deal on the slipcover .. BUT was NOT expecting such a hit with shipping charges or rather 'handling charges' like this... it would be WAY different feeling if my high bid amount was what it ended at and that total with reasonable shipping was asked .... but im thinking since it ended so low shes trying to get more outta the auction ...

ive learned from selling ( and dont do it very often, maybe a few times a year ) cuz i never have luck on my auctions lol ...but if you want a certain amount at least PUT A RESERVE on it or start it a lil higher!!!

she didnt do either ... heres the auction and you will see yes i got a great deal on the winning amount ... but still think its outrageous for her asking s&h price .. id hate to think if it ended at my high bid if shed still be asking for the $20.00 ... i would be a lil more 'red' about it then

but still waiting on her response

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4323502967&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

Originally posted by starkisses


and ive never had a problem like this before ... i may bid, win ect from time to time on ebay but im not as knowledgeable as some of you mamas on here ... isnt that what this place is for, help eachother, share ideas, ect ug i feel like sometimes when i post i get backlashed .... oh well




Jodi,
I don't think anyone is giving you backlash, I certainly am not trying to. You had asked what we thought of it and we are doing just that, giving you our thoughts. It's one of those situations where we might not know if you are new to ebay etc. and don't know or not. Just trying to be helpful not hurtful.

I have so learned my lesson to not assume that someone will be fair or knowledgable about shipping...when someone wanted $20 to ship a pair of pants or a coat (same person)...I ALWAYS ask first. Oh and I didn't bid on that person's auctions...I asked first and told her she was nuts and I turned her into eBay...and eBay basically said too bad, so sad. Oh and someone once actually charged me $10.00 to ship a HAT! I did NOT ask her before the auction ended...I asked her to send it first class for like $3.50-$4.00...and priority for $4.00 or so...knowing full well that was MORE than what it would cost. She got ticked at me...said it clearly stated $10.00 and that's that! I paid...argh...she left me positive, then when I griped about how much it actually cost to get to me (of course like $3.85 priority)...she then added a follow up nasty comment to her positive. I still did not leave her a negative...how could I? I KNEW how much she was going to charge me, but stupid me thought she was a newbie and just didn't understand how cheap it would be to ship...and THOUGHT she would be honest and not STEAL my money...oh and she used a priority box.

Anyway...I ask first...if it's too high in the listing, I will kindly ask for cheaper shipping before bidding (unless they state don't email asking for a lower shipping). It is so obvious these people are avoiding eBay fees, but I think eBay has gotten so big they just cannot deal with the constant complaints and issues surounding shipping gouging. Now they state a seller is entitled to "reasonable" S&H fees...and that is up in the air as to what "reasonable" is...no matter how many times I report someone for their S&H fees...eBay does nothing. Eh.

So understand the "sticker shock" you felt mama...it bites! And complain away...you are entitled and some do listen and understand (I only read your first post and last response...no one else's BTW)..k?

thanks heidi ....

i know even with the $20.00 shes asking for the shipping and handling +my ending winning bid, i got a good deal .. but in the manner its being asked and dealt with ( the high handling ) its what bugs me the most ... i would NEVER ask such a thing of someone

i think this is probably the first time i havent tried contacting a seller about shipping charges and ive learned yes lol ....

i usually do the same as you and try to see if they would send a cheaper way so i can be able to bid more on the item and know they are getting more $ instead of the post office

id say 99% of the time they are willing to do that , sometimes they dont even get back to me before the auction ends and that bites

i need a small lamp for by our bed and there is one on ebay that of course now ended and she didnt respond back with actual shipping cuz in her 'ad' she listed that it starts at $6.00 and goes upward depending on weight and location ... so i wanted more defiente answers about it before i placed the bid .... i may still try contacting her since it would be a perfect lamp that i can mount on the wall and it swings out for mikes side of the bed... since my side will have a night light lol

but ne ways i do appreciate the comments and thoughts and glad im not alone on the matter

i just got done reading the same thing you posted hiedi about the "reasonable" S&H fees

we will see what happens

thanks

It's definitely padding in the shipping costs - let us know what happens. At this point you have no choice but to pay, of course - but I think I'd wait till she leaves you feedback, and then just email her and tell her you thought her shipping charges were unfair, and you won't be bidding on her auctions again.

Well.. I have enough positive feedbacks that I wouldn't worry about one negative. You got a great deal on the cover even with the outrageous shipping and handling charge but $20 ? come on. She is clearly screwing you. I understand about ebay fees, time, gas, packaging material which is why I start my auctions a little higher...to cover those extra expenses. I just sold keaton's paint ball gun on ebay and stated in my description that shipping would be $15 and that I would be adding $3 to that amount to cover cost of shipping materials. The gun cost $14 to ship and I used an entire roll of bubble wrap... so I made a buck off the shipping charge. Fair I think.

I do believe that it is the responsibility of the buyer to make sure of all charges before placing a bid... *BUT* I think it is reasonable to expect the seller to include in their auctions a fair quote for shipping and handling.

If I were going to sell something that would only cost $8 to ship but wanted to screw the buyer out of $12.. I certainly wouldn't list my shipping quote in the auction. I would do what the seller did in this case. She knew that she would have you over a barrel once you won the item. I don't like that position very well :) I'ld tell her that she was a taco shy of a combination plate if she expected me pay $12 over the actual cost of shipping :D I might offer to pay $10 for shipping and then would probably still leave her a negative feedback.

Can you tell I'm not in the greatest of moods tonight. :vent:

im paying no worries people geesh lol

now just hoping it arrives :rolleyes:

i finally got a response from them, and im paying for priority mail and the box it comes in ( ok priority boxes are free ) and a small handling fee. and their words, " its not an outrageous price for everything "

so i responded and i told them id like delivery confirmation on the package

and im off to pay ill have paypal behind me if it doesnt show i suppose lol


thanks ~ jody

Well I would not give a positive rating to her for over-pricing on the shipping. A couple of dollars is one thing, but ripping you off is another.

I state in your feedback how much she over-charged you for shipping, and how she was trying to say you were paying for the free priority box the post office gives out.

sorry momma...I learned this long ago when I ordered a poster for my son @@....no shipping listed, I thought it would be relatively small considering it was PAPER, rofl..it was 12.00!!! the auction ended at like, 3 bucks...and I bid on 3 of them, and won...I had to practically BEG for combined shipping, and even then, it was 12.00 for the first one, and 4.00 for each of the others @@.

I felt ripppppped off, but, I had no leg to stand on :/

ohh i plan on leaving something something in her feedback, want her to leave mine first though and hope its positive lol cuz i just paid so i upheld my end but i told her i found it unreasonable for her "small handling fee" and if she wanted to put more money into her pocket that she start the auction out higher or put a reserve price on it

it will be interesting to see the box when it gets here and just see how she weighed the box down or lack of and just how much she pocketed

the joys ;o)

thanks everyone