View Full Version : OK.. so evidently Chris is allergic to milk too..
LaVieBoheme
09-15-2004, 02:29 PM
How the heck did this happen?? He nurses FINe.. is cranky on & off, but nothing obsessive.. normal baby stuff. He's a horrible sleeper though, maybe this is why?
Yesterday we went to visit my sil & bil at their beach house... 6 kids 4 & under, can you imagine the drama? *lol* Anyhow, their youngest is 13 mths & my sil just weaned her, she is now drinking whole milk. Chris found her bottle & started drinking it, for a few minutes before I saw & pulled it away. Within a few minutes he had hives all over his face just like when he ate the earths best teething biscuit.
Well what do I do now?? Should *I* cut out all dairy & wheat? Even if it doesnt appear to be affecting him from my pov? Maybe it really is?? I mean I eat ice cream every day.. drink a small or medium latte, & sometimes have a yogurt fror breakfast. I don't eat too much wheat really because I *try* to eat low carb. (umm minus the latte & ice cream everyday Oops! :o )
I will speak to the dr at his 9 mth appt in october & see about getting him tested.. but until then wh at? I cant do soy.. I'm allergic to soy (pretty severely).. I dont have TONS of dairy a day, maybe thats why he doesn't appear to be affected so badly?? I mean one bowl of ice cream at night and one medium latte in the morning is all I usually have dairy wise.. besides maybe cooking my eggs with a slice of butter...
I'm so clueless.. I can't believe one of my children have a food allergy. Ok coming from ME I'm suprised they don't all.. *loL*
LaVieBoheme
09-15-2004, 05:05 PM
anyone? Could the allergy just dissappear in the future?
Evergreen
09-15-2004, 05:18 PM
If it doesn't seem to be bothering him, I would probably keep on as you are. That may not be the best advice as I am not a LC or LLL leader or medical doctor, but... maybe try it for 2 weeks (I think that is how long it takes to flush dairy entirely from your system) and see if he sleeps better.
Anyway, have you started solids yet? If so really keep an eye on the ingrediants, the dairy will be filtered somewhat from your milk, but as somone who tries to avoid dairy, I know that it is snuck in to many foods that you wouldn't suspect. If it is up there on the ingrediant list I would avoid giving the food to him.
Also, if he has these allergies he is suseptable to others- sorry, I can't spell. Really watch peanuts and eggs until he is older.
, I think that about 50 percent of humans are allergic to dairy, and many of those cases are undiagnosed. Humans stop producing the enzyme that digests lactose around 4 or 5 years of age (no coincidence that the average age of child led weaning is 4.2).
Anyway, tangent... follow your gut.
Your poor little boy! I hope he feels better soon.
Selissa
09-15-2004, 07:22 PM
there ae rice based dairy replacement products too mama. ice cream, milk, cheese, etc. I know i thought lucien's possible dairy allergy wasn't effecting him for a long time (like till he was almost one. I was a dairy addict and since he didn't get direct reactions..and i cut it out for a couple weeks and it didnt' seem to help...sigh anyway....) and when i finally cut it out he was much happier, and slept much much better. his bm's actually got ...ummm...better too..and while he hadn't had awful allergy bm's they definatly got better after i quit the dairy.
and as a fringe benefit i found out the reason i have been sickly my entire life is because I am allergic to dairy..go figure lol
good luck mama
Quarli
09-15-2004, 07:23 PM
Mama,
Here is a good FA group that you can join. They are awesome! They can help you diagnose the allergy if there is one, and there are sights listed under thier Files Folder that will show you what to be on the look out for as far as reactions, lists of the common and not so common names used for the allergen, and much more!
Hope this helps you some!
POFAK (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/POFAK/)
littlemamajess
09-15-2004, 08:30 PM
That sounds like Ryan!!! LOL
When he was only a few weeks old I had a chocolate shake and he was up screaming all night for the first time since birth, Tyler was also sensitive to milk based formula as a baby so I figured ryan was just sensitive.
Then we went to my mom's birthday party when he was around 5 months old. My mom, without thinking had ice cream on her finger and let Ryan lick it off and he started to break out all around his mouth and anywhere the ice cream touched him.
I still have a little diary (pizza sometimes, ice cream, ect) But I try to space it when I know he recently nursed and won't again for awhile. I also do'nt watch what he eats very closely and give him stuff with diary baked in it with no problem so far and he loves yogurt and doesn't react to that so not sure what his deal is! LOL
He reacts even worse to tomatoes but so far doesn't react to anything else at least not that strongly. I would say he is allergic to tomatoes but sensitve to dairy (since not all dairy effects him?) I'm no help I know LOL but he did start sleeping better when I cut down dairy and avoided it as much as possible (good thing I never liked milk) I actually have a harder time with the not eating tomatoes then dairy (I love pizza and spagetti and tomatoes on sandwiches, in salads ect and there is no tomato subsitute like their is for dairy products! LOL) I'm thinking I shoudl start being more diligent about keeping things away from him but it's hard when I'm not sure for SURE what he's snesitive too. I want to have him tested so I know for sure but so far any dr I've talked to they don't recommend it for young children.
((HUGS)) mama it's hard to know what to do sometimes but I would say cut the dairy out and see if his mood improves some and the sleeping improves! You might be amazed... I also lost like 50lbs when I cut dairy out (I barely ate ANY dairy the first year of his life, then as he started spacing nursings I started to eat some here and there)
~Jess
Livn4them
09-15-2004, 09:06 PM
I just pm'd you but your box is FULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me know when it's empty:D
heythereheather
09-15-2004, 10:13 PM
nak (again...) but I'll reply to this later...Anders is allergic to very many things.
heythereheather
09-16-2004, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Evergreen
Also, if he has these allergies he is suseptable to others- sorry, I can't spell. Really watch peanuts and eggs until he is older.
I think that about 50 percent of humans are allergic to dairy, and many of those cases are undiagnosed. Humans stop producing the enzyme that digests lactose around 4 or 5 years of age (no coincidence that the average age of child led weaning is 4.2).
Wanted to first say--yes, I would avoid all nuts for awhile. Eggs for at least a year (which is rec. anyway). I don't know what other solids you've done, but I'd limit the highly allergenic.
And, I just need to say that lactose intolerance is different than milk protein allergy. Chris is probably reacting to the protein, not the lactose. At least so my doctor tells me--lactose intolerance isn't normally seen in young babies, or they'd have some pretty serious issues, as there is lactose in breast milk too.
OK. I am also on POFAK (the yahoo group), and it is wonderful, though very very high volume. I can't read it all the time, I just can't keep up. But I learn a lot when I do read. I've had lots of questions answered. The files themselves are also wonderful.
I would take Chris in to the ped and ask for allergy testing, but it's probably just as easy to avoid until he's one, because the tests aren't reliable until at least one, sometimes older. (meaning a false negative is possible).
Oh, I just saw the teething biscuit part! OK, with two potential allergens, I would say you should cut them out of your diet. This is what happened with Anders, though he reacts from just my breastmilk. I started with eliminating dairy, then wheat, then just kept going. Some of them weren't obvious until I had removed the others. I dont' know the science of it all--but I had eaten corn without him reacting. Then, after I'd eliminated wheat, dairy, and soy, I had something corn, and he had a big reaction. (for Anders a reaction is vomiting, rash, blood in stool, lots of gas, stomach cramps, and then 1-2 weeks of mucousy and green diapers).
I've become an expert at label reading, and my diet is down to the basics. In addition to the above, I also avoid all nuts, eggs, and tomatoes. But I can eat meat, beans, chicken, pork, rice, rice flours, fruits and vegetables. I'm not starving, I've just had to make new favorite foods. And I"ve broken a lifelong sugar addiction!
Anyway. I can answer any more specific questions if you decide to do an elimination diet. At the very least, I would eliminate wheat and dairy. You give his system the best shot to heal...that's my hope with Anders is that by eliminating any exposure to his allergens, he will outgrow his allergies before it's ever an issue for him (well, I can hope at least!)
OK, this is getting long...but also, an allergy CAN seem to appear at any time. In some kids, the levels take awhile to build up to cause a reaction. Or, sometimes you just dont' really know what hte reaction is, because you're just used to your child. Obviously, the acute stuff is pretty hard to ignore (hives? LOL!)...but food allergies can manifest in MANY ways.
I hope that's helpful...please LMK if you have any questions, I feel like I"m rambling now. I ahve done a lot of research...there's not a lot out there about allergic bf babies.
LaVieBoheme
09-16-2004, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Livn4them
I just pm'd you but your box is FULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me know when it's empty:D
Sorry Isabel... emptied my pm's. :( I usually keep it nice and clean, I don't know how it got away from me!!
I should also mention that I have a lot of food allergies.. so allergies are not unusual for this family. I'm allergic to most nuts and many raw fruits and veggies (very sad! :( )
momof2peewees
09-16-2004, 03:41 AM
I was told the longer I didn't expose my child to the allergy the better. (that included my eating it) We don't even start solids at all until after 1 year old. Not even water! My dd is now 5 3/4 and for the last 2 months we've been trying a few things and they are going well. But we still have not done nuts and strawberries and it will be a long time before we do nuts especially! If you have further questions, you can pm me. Tina
lillaurensmomma
09-16-2004, 03:53 AM
Lauren is dairy allergic (hives as well) and after she was diagnosed the dr told me as long as it didnt seem to be affecting her, dont worry about what I ate. Um, he was wrong. When we switched doctors, the new ped told me to cut out all dairy. I did and the change in Lauren was amazing. Things that I had no idea were related (including sleep) changed drastically. Within the first week it was like having a different child. It's definitely worth it to at least try dairy free (although it's not a lot of fun, I'll admit!)
j
Livn4them
09-16-2004, 07:53 AM
Pm'd you Cheryl :)
mamabear
09-16-2004, 09:49 AM
I would. This is coming from my own experience - Jake seemed to be allergic to dairy and wheat when young, but his symptoms were so vague that I didn't *really* think he could be allergic.
I'm now sorry I didn't cut the allergenic foods immediately.
Supposedly the less they are exposed to the allergenic foods when young, the LESS likely they are to continue to be allergic when older.
My dd - allergic to milk products as a baby. I took her off her yobaby yogurts and all other dairy until she was 3 or 4. She was fine, then. But at 18 mo she could not eat a yogurt.
Heythereheather's advice is excellent...see I wish I'd read more and learned more earlier, because Jake might not have some of the developmental issues he does have if I had taken him off of gluten and casein earlier in his life.
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