Short story - We don't believe in spanking/hitting Andy and have very effectively used time-outs for him. My mom is a firm believer in spanking/hitting/pulling hair, etc. It wasn't fun growing up - let's just say it that way. I was talking to her tonight (I try to avoid this) and was saying that my friend is coming over tomorrow with her son who is a bit of a bully and she gives him time-outs if he takes a toy/pushes another kid. Doesn't happen often - just sometimes. Mom says that time-outs don't work and that we should spank Andy when he doesn't listen, etc. She quoted the ever-popular Bible verse about sparing the rod and spoiling the child. I told her that this is in regard to shepherds herding their sheep and the rod was used to guide the sheep along - not to beat them with it. How many more times are we going to have this talk?! I'm guessing at least a couple hundred before Andy turns 18! It's just so frustrating! Thanks for listening. It just really bugs me and makes me mad that she keeps bringing this up!